California State University system faces rejecting 20,000 qualified students

[Theophylact]

for budgetary reasons; far more poor white students than were ever displaced by affirmative action.

[FTM]

Why would a private college stand to loose $240 million dollars because of the proposed new California budget? Is that college completely dependant on state funding?

[Epidemic]

Obviously not qualified students. They may have the grades but not the money apparently.

I was in that same boat.

Perhaps they need to spend some time getting the GI bill to work for them.

[Theophylact]

Originally posted by FTM
Why would a private college stand to loose $240 million dollars because of the proposed new California budget? Is that college completely dependant on state funding?

Not USC; CSU!

[J-Excel]

Is this a slam on Arnold’s predecessor? Tourniquets hurt, but sometimes they are needed to stop the bleeding.

[FTM]

I didn't misread the name, I wanted to know if the school is so inefficient that it requires state funding of $12,000 ($240M/20,000) per student per year.


Guess it wasn't quite such a tragedy when a democrat is responsible The previous Democratic Governer cut CSU's budget more deeply than the current republican governer is proposing.

This letter was posted on the CSU website PRIOR to the new Republican Governors budget.

Dear CSU Students:

Welcome to a new academic year at the California State University, and thank you for choosing to be a part of our university system.

Over the past year, California's severe budget crisis has resulted in deep budget cuts for the CSU and other state-funded agencies and institutions. The 2003/04 budget approved by the Legislature and Governor Davis this summer will result in a net reduction to the CSU of $304 million after fee revenues are considered, an amount that comes to approximately 11 percent of the CSU's General Fund appropriation.

This situation presents a significant challenge for the CSU. We know that higher education is vital to California's economic prosperity, and that our state relies on the CSU to provide high-quality, accessible, student-focused higher education for its citizens. Yet these deep budget cuts, along with budget language stipulating that the CSU would not be funded for any enrollment growth for 2004/05, will for the first time put limits on the CSU's long-standing promise of providing unlimited educational opportunity.

As we work to manage these budget reductions, the campus presidents and I want to make sure that the CSU's promise of providing access to students remains meaningful, and that we preserve the value of your investment in higher education. For the near term, we are going to focus on ensuring that the students we enroll get the courses they need to graduate. For the long term, we will continue to work with the Legislature to create a consistent, predictable higher education funding plan and fee policy that will allow us to serve all qualified students in good economic times as well as bad.

We will call on you in the coming months to assist us in this effort by contacting your local legislators and letting them know how important your CSU education is to you. In the meantime, I invite you to learn more about these issues by visiting the CSU's "Budget Central" or the California Postsecondary Education Commission's "Student Fees Q & A".

Thank you again for choosing the California State University. I wish you a rewarding academic year ahead.

With kind regards,

Sincerely,



Charles B. Reed
Chancellor

**emphasis added

I read this somewhere... seems to apply to this thread as well

Why not check first when you find something that seems to confirm your prejudices so perfectly?

[wallie_x]

The California state university system is 'pork' incorporated. They are very well paid, especially the administrative branch which inhales huge chunks of that budget.
Hopefully Arnie will expose their rampant inefficiency and make them clean house.
Also, potential college students here need to utilize the community college systems which cost far less to attend, and most of the classes are transferable toward a degree.

Reed said that this fall some students, such as those who haven't quite met transfer or entrance requirements, will have to go to community colleges instead.

Also what is obvious is that the teachers and administators will not accept a temporary pay decrease now would they...sort of a share the pain thing.
No, the teachers and adminstartion make guess who pay?

[Theophylact]

Show me an error in what I've posted, and I'll accept your criticism.

I posted a factual news column about the budget shortage and the University system's statement that it would require cutting 20,000 eligible students.

I did not finger anybody for the shortfall. If you think you see someone being blamed for that, you need better glasses.

If you think you can run a major university system for less than $12,000 per student, I'd like to see your figures. This isn't a private college with a large endowment ; it's a public university, and yes, almost all its funding comes from the state. It almost certainly does get Federal funding for some programs; how much, I don't know. But it's not K-12, and it costs more.

Yes, I did make a political point in the one sentence I added to the news story. See if you can figure out what it is.

[Epidemic]

So california has free college in their public universities?

They do not charge kids to go to it?

[Pexster]

Wallie-x

Hopefully Arnie will expose their rampant inefficiency and make them clean house.

Yes, Arnie did promise to uncover hundreds of millions of dollars of fat in the budget. Oh, yeah . . . that was during the campaign. This is reality. Last I heard, his people are now pretty much saying that Davis's numbers were accurate after all, and his new plan isn't much different from what Davis suggested. But, hey, I sincerely hope the guy succeeds!