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Old 01-27-2004, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need numbers and data on WW1 please!

I'm looking for the territory lost or gained by the US and Austria-Hungary as a result of WW1. Also, any site pertaining to World War 1 with data would be great.

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Edit - Oh, and I need this by 10:05 January 28th.

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Old 01-27-2004, 05:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Talk about First World War info!

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Old 01-27-2004, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Whoa!!...good site. I kinda fancy myself as a WW II amateur historian/buff
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You might include this poem, by Wilfred Owen, describing the loathsome effects of mustard gas...one of the cruelest and most obscene creations of warfare: The title of it is Dulce et Decorum est (1917)


Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime.
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in.
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow, that's powerful. I'd never heard of that, Knot. Thanks for sharing. Also, must reading is All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Remarque, a classic novel. Sorry, Arctic Fox, I only have books.
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry, Arctic Fox, I only have books.
Boy, has he got books!

Pexster, it was Theophylact who first turned me on to that poem. And I'm not one to crumble, but that one broke me down to tears. I'm hardly surprised that you grasped its power.

I wish that others in this arrogant, macho, let's-show-the-world-that-we're-the-big-boys political landscape would remember it, too.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Alright, cool, probably could make use of some of that stuff.

BTW - powerful poem....
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"I'm looking for the territory lost or gained by the US and Austria-Hungary as a result of WW1."

US lost none, nor did they gain any. Austria-Hungary, technically lost everything, considering that after the war Austria-Hungary as a political entity ceased to exist.
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Alright, cool, probably could make use of some of that stuff.

BTW - powerful poem....
Oh, you're welcome!


Hmm...wait a minute, you didn't even freakin' thank me!!!




Ditto on the poem, Knot...cruel, but powerful.
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a very powerful verse- ! C
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