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Old 01-24-2004, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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John Kerry’s Achilles’ Heel

When the truth finally gets out, Kerry's toast.

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WASHINGTON — Sen. John Kerry may stress a centrist stance while trying to woo primary voters on the campaign trail, but his voting record resembles that of one of the most liberal lawmakers in the Senate — chief backer and Massachusetts' Democratic dean, Edward Kennedy

He's a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. He's pretty much textbook, as liberal as you can get," said Tripp Baird, director of Senate relations for the conservative Heritage Foundation . "I don't care how you slice and dice his voting record, there is no way he is going to be able to avoid it."
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting, well I hope he gets his stuff straight as the one who succeeds Bush better be good.
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wallie, you say 'liberal' like that's a bad thing.

The conservative Republicans have disproven the myth that big government, big spending and deficits are caused by liberals.

These 'conservatives' have passed the biggest budget in history, proposed even bigger social programs and spending and refuse to pay for it - leaving the biggest deficit and debt in world history.

What do liberals want?

-fair tax policy
-clean government, not gov't dominated by special interests
-an environmental policy that protects the environment
-an energy policy that is for the people not the oil companies
-a foreign policy that can be respected
-Homeland security that doesn't rely upon denying constitutional rights
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Old 01-25-2004, 12:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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MTA, you're dreaming...

All the Demos want is their power back so they can more effectively pander to their base in the form of more handouts. Or if you prefer, the Robinhood Program - a Democratic nursery rhyme of robbing the rich and giving to the poor.

There is nothing wrong with being a liberal, especially in California where the social experiment of "everything for every group" has failed.
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Old 01-25-2004, 06:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I thought from the thread title that this was going to be about Vietnam. But, no, apparently the Achilles Heel is that Kerry "voted liberal" on a variety of issues. In fact, that entire article is nothing more than a compilation of people and organizations throwing the word "liberal" around. I've never really paid much attention to Fox News -- is this generally the quality of their work?
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Chuckiechan, then you must concede that the conservative experiment has failed.

The Republican conservatives control the White House, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court. They have all the power and can't blame anyone else. Their rule has resulted in handouts to rich campaign contributors, corporate special interests and religious fanatics, while curtailing civil liberties and engaging in adventuristic foreign policy. The party that claimed to want to get the gov't off the backs of the people is breaking their backs.

Worse, it has resulted in a bald power grab that threatens the democracy. Using computers to gerrymander Congressional districts the Republicans have embarked on solidifying a permanent majority in Congress even though they don't have a majority of the state population.

The link wallie points to was written by reactionaries that think 'liberal' is a curse word. Instead of John Kerry’s positions are his strengths not his Achilles’ heal. The positions he takes contrasts Bush's positions but correspond to the position of more Americans.
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"Conservatives" believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, responsible spending, and are generally more "protectionist" than "adventurist" when it comes to foreign policy and the use of our military. This gang in the White House fails all litmus tests for conservativism.
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I think the difference is that Conservatives say they believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights and responsible spending, while Liberals do believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights and responsible spending. No Republican adminstration since Coolidge has tried to control the debt. While Clinton was the only president since to have a balanced budget. Bush would have had a balanced budget if he didn't insist on huge tax-cuts for the wealthy.
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"Americans for Democratic Action, the premier liberal rating organization, puts his lifetime rating at 93 percent," Mr. Gillespie said, while Senator Edward M. Kennedy "has a lifetime rating of 88 percent — five points less. Who would have guessed it? Ted Kennedy is the conservative senator from Massachusetts!"
LIBERAL!?!?!?
Yesterday CNN had an article (I should have linked it cuz now I can't find it. ) showing Kerry as 'the quintessential waffle'.
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Wallie, you say 'liberal' like that's a bad thing.
The day the Democrats stop the vicious demonizing of there opponents, and stop being the kings of sleaze, pandering to minority special interests and trashing the rights of the majority to panders to gays, lesbian dominated NOW: with absolutely no rights for the unborn, race baiting with lowballs like Jesse Jackson, then I'll start voting democratic and thoroughly start hitting the right which has big faults, but nowhere near the scum attached to it as the far left.
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You give me a laugh every time wallie, how you spin something good into something bad. Example, protecting the rights of a minority (such as gays) is, "trashing the rights of the majority," as if the majority has a right to disenfranchise the minority and those that defend the minority are bad. (If you lived 150 years ago, I wonder if you would have believed in abolition? Or, whether you would have held the common view back then that the dominant race has a God given right to subjugate the weaker races.)

"vicious demonizing of there opponents?" Since you didn't site specifics, I wonder if you mean something like this http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92971,00.html

"pandering to minority special interests?" You mean, like this?" http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/02...to_Bush+.shtml

"Race baiting?" Hmmm. Like this? http://www.independentjudiciary.com/...NewsClipID=211
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