Guantanamo

[Creatures]

Most of the approximately 660 detainees at Guantanamo Bay have been held without charge for two years.

The ICRC says this is illegal and that they are entitled to a legal status.

But the US claims the detainees are prisoners of war and therefore are not allowed the same rights as normal prisoners.

Switzerland is the depository of the Geneva Conventions, which outline rules concerning the treatment of prisoners of war.

ICRC challenges US over Guantanamo prisoners

No one deserves this

Creatures

[OuTpaTienT]

Two years on, Afghan government has no complaints over Guantanamo

No one derserves WHAT Creatures? 3 meals a day? To be allowed to pray to their god? To be allowed to live? What exactly do you mean?

And one more thing Creatures...

[muno]

No one deserves either what? Free world trade? Blooming economism? Jobs for many?

[ShawnD1]

Those guys being held were part of the taliban (supporters of terrorism), and they're beating treated too nicely IMO. Most of them actually GAINED weight while being held in guantanamo. That's a bit strange since it's supposed to be punishment and not a reward.

Holding them ourselves is more humane than sending them back to Afghanistan. What do you think the current government would do to their former leaders? I suspect they would either be hung or thrown in jail and left to starve. Maybe we should send them back after all......

[muno]

Terrorists should also have a right for trial. That they're held there without charges, for undetermined time is a violation of basic human rights.

Now before anyone says anything stupid, I do not consider lowering oneself to the same barbaric level as terrorist-extremists are to be a valid choice. So don't say anything about what they've done to human rights.

[Warthog]

Ahhh Creatures...*sigh*...

Maybe you should make that pic Out posted your wallpaper to remind you everytime you think of making a post like this.

Warthog

[Aaron_J]

Originally posted by muno
Terrorists should also have a right for trial. That they're held there without charges, for undetermined time is a violation of basic human rights.

Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War


They can be held until the cessation of active hostilities. This hasn't happened. (this means both sides must cease hostilities. Not just one) Also as prisoners of war they aren't necessarily going to be tried for any criminal acts although I imagine more then a few will be tried for war crimes re: the intentional targeting of civilians.

Like it or not they are being considered POW's and they are being treated under the guidelines set forth under the GC. This makes your quoted statement a moot point.

Now, if you want to present a case as to why they should not be considered POW's I would love to hear it.

[Creatures]

Originally posted by OuTpaTienT
And one more thing Creatures...

those who did this already died, it's not those who got catched over there, they have to pay for something they didnt do!

and the human rights are all and everywhere! they are here for everyone also the bad ones and a bag over a head and soldiers that kick, punch prisoners isnt fair!

Maybe you should make that pic Out posted your wallpaper to remind you everytime you think of making a post like this.

two planes crash into the WTC, the terroristic group is called TALIBAN, ergo every taliban has to suffer! good, america used nuke bombs , now all american has to suffer because of the dead ones in hiroshima, all germans has to suffer because they followed a dictactor who killed jews (a lot more than people died in WTC)

best would be we all kill ourselves, that would solve a lot of problems

Creatures

[muno]

Aaron_j, check out Outpatients link. It says there they are considered 'illegal combatants' (whatever that means...) rather than pows.

Here's the quote as you obviously don't have time to read stuff people refer-to when posting.

The United States has designated the detainees illegal combatants rather than prisoners of war, and has reserved the right to keep them in detention without trial.

[RADAR1797]

Creatures,

You obviously do not understand. The terrorist group is Al Qaeda, the Taliban was the ruling party in Afghanistan that supported the terrorist group. Al Qaeda never had a flag of its own to fly, but did strike an alliance with the Taliban. After 9/11, President Bush gave the Tabliban an ultimatum, give us Osama bin Laden and his cohorts or else. They chose else.
You are so naive. I frankly cannot believe anyone has to explain these things to you. Seeing as Al Qaeda does not own a country, to whom are we suppose to return these prisoners to? They are in fact illegal combatants, they are not part of any national military that signed the Gevena Conventions. In spite of that, we do treat them as close to guidelines of the convention as possible. Now do you really think we are going to turn a bunch of terrorists back into the world so they can start plotting the next 9/11? I wonder why I wasted my breath.

-RADAR