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01-11-2004, 05:16 PM
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sexist... me?
i am often called sexist by both men and women, friends and enimies.
i dont think that i am, i try to be very fair. i may joke about it, but they do know when i am.
for example in english we watched a movie about men being expected to be tough and stuff... and its blameing all sorts of problems on men. ... and in my response (paper) i briefly noted how it can be, and is quite often jsut as much as a womans fault.
the other thing that im called on, is the fact that i will hit women. and dont tell me that i shouldnt because im bigger or stronger, because im not (not upper body anyways) obvisouly will good cause, in example them attacking me, i will fight back no matter whoit is, and just as hard.
things im not called on, that i know im sexist about are like how i always pay for the movie/dinner etc., and how i think that the man should support the woman, that kind of stuff.
so can there be good sexism? im sick of everybody calling everybody whatever"ist", especcially when the people there saying this about are like me...
just ranting i guess.
Blaze
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01-11-2004, 05:28 PM
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Oi. Here's a can of worms.
Not going to comment on the violence thing, but I agree with you on the first point, as it is as often anyone's fault as anyone else's, and women happen to be part of anyone. On a global scale, it's probably men. Domestically, it'll go either way. In my opinion, of course.
As for the paying for stuff, man supporting woman jink, that's all good and fine. But you will find feminists that don't take kindly to the idea because they feel that men that feel that way think women are inferior. This often isn't the case, sometimes the guy just wants to feel responsible and to make his girl happy and feels that if he does all the dirty work, she'll be free to do whatever she needs to, or something. I'm a firm believer in equality, but I don't mind putting the elbow grease in to earn a few kudos. ANYONE appreciates that, not just girls. It's just a social stigma the US has been battling since the 50s.
And stuff.
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01-11-2004, 05:39 PM
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well ive only hit 2 people in the past year. one guy and one chick. both hit me / tried to hit me first. im not violent, but will be just as easy / hard with a women as a man. to me... if im being attacked it doesnt matter who it is. how many people complain about the 350lb guy hitting the 150lb guy? not many, but have that same 350 guy hit a 150 women and everybodys pissed. its a bunch of b******* imo
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01-11-2004, 05:43 PM
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I suppose I have my own sexist ways...I treat my female friends VERY different than my male friends, opening doors for them, treating them to meals, etc. etc....I just can't help it, either...and a guy hitting a woman in pure anger (not like your scenario, blazer) will fire me the hell up. I don't get mad too easy but if someone is being abusive, holy shiznit....get outtah my way  .
Don't ask me why I act this way...I dont' consider women "inferior"...I just have the natural nurture/caring aspect going on.
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01-11-2004, 05:51 PM
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yeah... i like do the same thing.
its weird though... because i dont really get fired up about a girl hitting a guy in anger, but do about a guy hitting a girl. and alot of the girls in my school hit harder than the guys :P
Blaze
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01-11-2004, 06:19 PM
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I have to say, that I don't think of women as inferior in any way, but I will pay for meals on dates, and in fights I won't hit a woman - occasionally that requires restraint (in the end I resorted to a submission hold until she calmed down), but even then, I never pushed the barrier, and was talking to her to try and sort things out... a guy comes at me, after the first strike then I'll fight back...
And I'll open the door to anyone that needs..
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01-11-2004, 06:21 PM
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I don't mind when a guy hits me. I'm most likely the one who hit him first. In my family we hit each other for fun. I guess it also depends why he hits me. If were having a fight and he hit me cause of that. He's a dead man walkin. As far as paying for my dinner hey sure you won't hear me complain.  I do hate it when guy friends I have treat me differnt. I don't want to be treated differnt. If you hold the door open for me i'll say thanks but if you close it in the next guys face i'll be bit miffed.
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01-11-2004, 07:35 PM
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Blazer, my friend, you are W-A-A-A-Y too young to have people putting such asinine labels on you...unless they have an agenda, and if so, you have my permission to disregard them, as they aren't worth the wrinkles they are putting on your forehead!
This is merely IMO, but what passes for "feminist" thought these days is merely the whining rants of a bunch of spoiled, overprivileged white women who moan about some farcical, imaginary "equality" that they wouldn't understand or appreciate if it kicked them in their self-indulgent butts!
Except for one: Camille Paglia. This woman is a Goddess and one of the great Feminist/Masculinist */Humanist thinkers of our time! Look her up and feast your mind on what a REAL "feminist" is! *Heh, I made up a new word! |
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01-11-2004, 07:41 PM
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Hey, nebel is a girl!
Oops, that is a sexist thought, is it not?  I should treat all persons on the board the same, and not spare any specific niceties for female members. According to the feminists, anyhow.
Still, I will make sure that nebel doesn't get the gents key to the Members washroom when she makes it that far.  Some things are a little too "obvious" to equate with equality.
Cheers
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01-11-2004, 07:44 PM
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how old are you nebal... seeing that you are a student
Blaze
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