Gay Friends

[Theophylact]

An interesting post on Slacktivist:

Just heard "conservative commentator" Andrew Sullivan (who apparently also has a blog of some sort*) on NPR's "Talk of the Nation" discussing the topic of gay marriage and the likelihood that a constitutional amendment banning such unions might become an issue in this year's election.

After one 26-year-old caller argued for a live-and-let-live perspective -- "who would it hurt?" he asked -- Sullivan noted that this was a fairly typical view for people "under 40." Younger people, Sullivan said, are more likely to have gay friends, and their views are more likely to be influenced by those friendships.

Most of what Andy had to say today was pretty good, but I want to quibble on this point. The difference between people "under 40" and older generations is not that they may have more "gay friends," but that they have more openly gay friends.It's not like there's been a sudden explosion in the gay population during the past 40 years -- just more openness and less denial. (By denial I don't mean on the part of closeted gay people, but on the part of a culture that was somehow unable to decipher the puzzle of Paul Lynde's sexuality.) That 26-year-old caller probably didn't know any more gay people than his parents did -- it's just that he knows he knows them.

All of which somehow reminds me of how Mike Mussina, the Yankees pitcher, answered when a reporter asked him if he would accept a gay teammate. Mussina pointed out that he'd been pitching in the big leagues for ten years, with scores of different teammates, so therefore he assumed, "I already have."

*joke

[Beemer]

I wonder. Would it be hurting the gay teammate's rights to ask that he/she, (Depending on whether it's a men's or ladies league) be segregated to another change room?

Another e.g., I've been told that it's illegal for a man to enter the ladies room of a restaurant or any other public establishments wash room facilities during operational hours. I would want to have a right of legal action against any such invasion of privacy by any man that is found to be of the gay persuasion entering a public urinal or team change room that I was in, while I was going about my business. After all. The ladies wouldn’t put up with me entering their team change room or washroom while they were in there disrobing and showering. All I would want to do is get changed too! “Why are you all screaming?”

Will there be an amendment to hockey registration forms requiring disclosure of your sexual persuasion? There should be now a-days. I think there will be very many issues to deal with during this time of gay versus non-gay social development.

Yes they have been around for a long time but now it's in your face.

Kids getting handed cards at school for inappropriate language, and prime time TV shows:

Friends
Darla and Grace (I think it is called)
6 Feet Under
Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Just lovely.

Cheers!

[brandon184]

I think those gays should have their own water fountains.

[Optimus Prime]

You two obviously don't see what Theo is saying. He is saying that beemer already has been in changing rooms with gay people and that brandon has taken water from the same water foundtain that gay people have.

You two make me sick, honestly. You are as bad as when black and white people had to use different buses and toilets. I can tell you two are American. Go join the anti-gay version of the KKK.

[Beemer]

Yes and I addressed that very point with my querys. How will I be protected from them in change rooms and washrooms. They won't belong in the Men's or Ladies rooms. Now if you don't quit following me you will get yourself very sick I'm afraid.

Cheers!

[pickel]

Like my dear old Mother used to say, in her eternal wisdom,
" They didn't ask to born that way"

[Creatures]

do you think homosexual men try to rape heterosexual men? or lesbian try to rape heterosexual women?
do you think homosexual men have Virus or a bacterious which could infect you and you die a horrible death?
do you think homosexuals have a different way of washing themselve? do you think they are all perverts?

i hope america will allow gay marriage, just to see how you're gonna react! (and of course for the homosexuals!)

Creatures

[daveleau]

What's sickening about gays needing their own changing rooms? Women are protected from the prying eyes of sexually charged men and vice versa. Gays of both sexes are just as sexually charged as anyone else so why shouldn't straight people be protected from their gaze as well. It sounds like someone needs to lighten up and realize the difference between discussing a controversial topic and saying hateful bigamist things which has not been done in this thread.

BTW, Creatures, you do make one outlandish statement above that is not outlandish (I think you are trying to be sarcastic with your 3 questions ). There have been many rapes.

[Creatures]

i think it doesnt went up, in the past it was terrible to be gay, nowadays it's not that bad anymore (being gay BTW isnt bad at all, it's normal as being heterosexual) so a lot more men and women out themselves because they see it's not bad anymore

there are a lot of documents about homosexuals in the past, they always existed

Creatures

i thought about the dressing room situation
BTW the virus, washing and pervet question are real questions, i want to know if those who dont like the gays think like that!

[vass0922]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime
You two make me sick, honestly. You are as bad as when black and white people had to use different buses and toilets. I can tell you two are American. Go join the anti-gay version of the KKK.

And I can tell you're a brit because you make over generalized ignorant statements like that

btw Brandon is not an 'american' ... North American yes, but I'm assuming you meant from the United States (as thats what most people are referring to)

I also think believe that Brandon was making a point with Sarcasm if it alluded you.

Also so it doesn't allude you again my first statement is ALSO [BLINK]SARCASM[/BLINK]

I'm sure you don't appreciate being lumped together.

Guess this is why I ignore these threads