The ACLU and Nativity Scenes

[Bill in SD, CA]

It seems to me that this is really getting out of hand and I have a solution.

For 75 years, the Creche at Balch Elementary School in Massachusetts has been a Christmas tradition. But this year, something repugnant has been added to the tradition: a lawsuit from the ACLU to eliminate the nativity scene on the school lawn.

How the ACLU Grinch Steals Christmas

My solution:



Bill

[Epidemic]

Hey the nativity scene should not be banned. it does not depict a religious scene. It reports history. for better or for worse jesus was born right. it is no different then civil war monuments.

Historical fact. artistically presented annually.

[Redwolf]

Free speech my @$$. If you really want to get rid of manger-scenes like this, then the only way to do so is to stop schools and governemt from celebrating Christmas. But since you still want that present for christmas, I guess you won't sue on those grounds, will you?

Do you have any other articles on this, like from CNN or such?

[nomaxim]

Here's one from over the pond.



BBC

[Bill in SD, CA]

Religious Restrictions or Religious Censorship?

Town Says 'No' to Nativity Scene, 'Yes' to Menorah

Mom Sues School to Allow Nativity Scene

ACLU to file lawsuit over Cranston holiday display

Bill

[Theophylact]

Here's one from a Boston Herald site.

ACLU of Massachusetts staff attorney Sarah Wunsch said the clients did not ask for a preliminary injunction, which would have required the creche to be kept off the Balch lawn, where it was scheduled to be erected this week.

"The clients feel it's very important this issue get resolved, and they're very concerned about it, but they didn't want an injunction because I think they felt that there has been enough divisiveness surrounding this," Wunsch said.

[Epidemic]

How do they deal with such issues in the UK.

Do you allow xmas to be celebrated in offices or public property displays of christmas decorations?

[Epidemic]

Originally posted by Bill in SD, CA
Religious Restrictions or Religious Censorship?

Town Says 'No' to Nativity Scene, 'Yes' to Menorah

Mom Sues School to Allow Nativity Scene

ACLU to file lawsuit over Cranston holiday display

Bill

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Now that Menorah vs Nativity scene thing is real BS.

Talk about a double standard.

Te menorah is not a religious symbol. It referrs to oil lamps of the chosen people remaining lit 9 or so days beyond their oil supply. God had apparently replenished the oil supply or changed the laws of physics in an attempt to keep the jewish homes lit.

(little known fact: there was a guy Named prankeous hording a few barrels of oil and he kept refilling them as a joke But he did not wish to be burned at the stake as a herritic when it was attribted to a higher being. Had it become common knowledge that he had done this there probably would be a prankiclause instead of santa clause.)

[Theophylact]

The menorah is as much (or as little) of a religious symbol as a Christmas tree or Santa Claus; it's specific to the holiday of Hanukkah (originally a political one). Now, if it were a Star of David, that'd be different, as would a cross.

A creche? Well, it's specific to Christmas, but it also depicts a baby God and His holy parents (one of them only by implication, I admit, but still...). Hard to argue a secular content there.

[Theophylact]

Originally posted by Epidemic
How do they deal with such issues in the UK.

Do you allow xmas to be celebrated in offices or public property displays of christmas decorations?

Epidemic, in Britain they do have an Established Church: the Church of England. It's the official religion, and Her Majesty is the head of the Church and Defender of the Faith. It's precisely that establishment that the Constitution forbade.