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Old 12-11-2003, 08:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dont say "Gay"....how about you go fu...

I recieved a business card in school today after saying "that is really gay"

this is what it said:
"You have recieved this card to inform you that what you have just said is offensive to GLBT (Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, Transvestites, questioning). Your speech inhibits the overall learning environment for all, please refrain from such speech. If you have any questions please contact......" That is pretty much the jist, after i got it i ripped it up and threw it in face of the person that gave it to me.

These cards are being given out by the "Gay/Straight Alliance"

It just annoys the hell out of me that they dodeletedlike that. I have free speech, and i will use the word in the context that i see appropriate. I actually went to see the teacher on the card, and he said the word was "offensive" to Gays, and makes them feel uncomfortable. But what they don't even care about is the new context which the word is taking, meaning "something that is stupid, ridiclious; something that sucks"

Their insistance to try to stop the changing context is ridiclious, and it can't be stopped. I would have argued my point further with the teacher if he wasn't my teacher...but i do want to pass his class, so i just dropped it.

the whole business card deal just makes me say it more

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Old 12-11-2003, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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haha, yes the word "gay" is moreso becoming "something that is stupid, ridiclious; something that sucks", as you said.

It's ironic that it used to be commonly used as (from dictionary.com)......

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Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.

Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
.....and with the advent of the 'homosexual revolution', it suddenly turns into a negative word.

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Old 12-11-2003, 09:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Maybe we should return to the other word...um.. er..began with an 'F' and ended with a 'T'...I think
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't see why you got your drawers all bunched about some kid handing you a card.
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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But what they don't even care about is the new context which the word is taking, meaning "something that is stupid, ridiclious; something that sucks"
And why, do you suppose it is taking on that new context? Because of homophobia! Think about it a minute.

The meaning you refer to above is a direct result of the homophobia in our society--naturally those who are offended by homophobia are going to be offended by the word "gay" used in this context.
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Maybe we should return to the other word...um.. er..began with an 'F' and ended with a 'T'...I think
When did anyone ever refer to anything that was stupid or ridiculous as "faggot"? Either way .. walk down the street saying that to people.. we'll see how long you last.

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But what they don't even care about is the new context which the word is taking, meaning "something that is stupid, ridiclious; something that sucks"
Use "queer"... no one seems to have a problem with that. I don't think "gay" is very close to "officially" taking on the aforementioned context, at this point. Whatever context it takes on, everyone knows where it originated from. It'd be like if everyone started saying, "That's negro!" instead of "That's gay!" ... It wouldn't be acceptable, in any claimed context. "Queer" is a fully acceptable term to use to refer to something that is strange, out of line or unordinary.. that way, I'm guessing the GLBT won't harass you. And if they do, THAT would be out of line.

IMO... I've never used "gay". From what I've seen, I assumed that only wieners and unsophisticated country folk still used it.

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How about those who are offended by the fact that the "gay and lesbian movement" have hijacked the word gay to describe their particular perversion.
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That's... ridiculous. Foolish, as well.

You're basically saying that the word "gay" had an entirely different meaning, prior to this so called "gay and lesbian movement"? Because according the the specificness of your post (I notice that those posting the ridiculous, extreme comments always lack explanation), that statement would have to pretty much be uncategorically true.

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Old 12-11-2003, 09:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How about those who are offended by the fact that the "gay and lesbian movement" have hijacked the word gay to describe their particular perversion.
that is what im trying to say, if they can take the context of a word and mold it, why should they have a problem when i do the same?


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IMO... I've never used "gay". From what I've seen, I assumed that only wieners and unsophisticated country folk still used it.
It's funny how you can make a sensible post sound like a piece of garbage with an ending like that

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Let me clarify... like I said... why the drawers all bunched up?

A person in a polite manner, using their right to free speech... using a manner to reduce confrontation, tried to express their feelings to you.

You feeling they were trying to infringe on your right to free speech, flew into a rage and responded by ripping up their message and throwing it in their face. They didn't threaten to tell on you, or punish you, or publicly admonish you for it... they simply handed you a non-offensive card.

BBP... Be the Better Person. Just smile and say you'll take it under consideration, and act as if nothing happened. Not a difficult thing for a grownup to do.
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