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12-03-2003, 02:06 PM
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The real explanation why no WMDs were found
Warning: this requires a theoretical physics background. Quote: |
Yet they fail to grasp the president's deep understanding of modern physics. In fact, prior to the invasion, the weapons both existed and didn't exist simultaneously, not unlike Schrodinger's Cat. The invasion and subsequent search brought in observers and collapsed the wave function to one of non-existence.
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12-03-2003, 02:26 PM
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Perhaps this might also explain ShawnD1's problems with his physics homework? He's slipped into a quantum mechanical universe. |
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12-04-2003, 05:37 AM
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Hmmm...Huh?....Ha ! !
Yo, Theophylact ,
This analysis , while spinning on the particular theory of mater, ignores two facts:
I) In that part of the World, Countries deliberately go out of their way to look as if the have all kinds of fanciful weapons..sorta of like a fish puffing its chest, to look larger.
II) This invasion was never about weapons of Anything understandible by a monadist theory of reality, except maybe All of Res Extensa begins with Oil.
Viewed from this theoretical perspective, it seeks to destroy deBrogli's Wave Theory of Matter , err..while affirming its validity.
The above deconstruction requires some knowledge of Theoretical Theory, especiallly Plato's Theory of noumenon, which in some sense anticipates deBrogli, whose name I've probably mispelled.
If you have understood any of the foregoing, you understand:
I)that the invasion of Iraq would never have happened without the events of 9/11;
II the emperical need for a viable and self-sustaining military base in the Middle East;
III) something that nobody has ever been able to understand, best stated as Irony, and the Theory of da DOOOOG.
This is quite exemplary. Especially if there is a grasp of Realpolitik.
Errr...Honck if you agree.
Also, Honk if you disagree.
Ga-acK if you're a PenguinHead.
AWOOOOOOOOOOOO[standard DooG salutation] !
DOOOG
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12-04-2003, 05:41 AM
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Those theoretically dead tens of thousands of Iraqis lying in mass theoretical graves might, in theory, take exception to this theory.
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12-04-2003, 05:50 AM
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Bush understands Physics?
Quantum Physics?
Well, I'll be darned.
Guess I'll have to give him some respect.
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12-04-2003, 07:18 AM
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| Osprey , the dead are never theoretical--whether before the war, under the Sadam Regime, are those who died in the conflict. Theo , in another Post quoted the famous poem of Wilfred Owens, "If you could see..." it goes in regard to the dieing and dead..
One could easily add, from Dylan Thomas, "After the first death, there is no other."
I do not make jest at the tragedy that is Iraq. But I could see the clouds of gasseous particles, after 9/11, that were in part perhaps in part the pulverized remnants of dead bodies, the molecules that once were vivacious, reduced...let me only say that I waited for my GF to return from that area..in what was the longest three hours..and saw the grime and remnants of glass, asbestos, concrete--and human flesh, in her hair.
As I wrote above, the invasion would never had occurred, had 9/11 not had ben done.
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Love shall Not.
And Death shall have No Dominion
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12-04-2003, 07:30 AM
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Real or implied means little to me.
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Scenario
If a fellar with a history of violence, says he has a gun and is gonna kill some people to a news reporter.
The reporter then promptly reports it to the cops.
But when the police arrive he tells them that he has no weapons through a hole in the wall.
The police ask to validate it but he says no. Then says yes you can look but only through this hole in the wall. The police unsatisfied with the limited view offered then go in.
I believe that the police will go in pretty sure he has weapons. If they find none that is not their fault.
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12-04-2003, 07:38 AM
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[T]he invasion would never had occurred, had 9/11 not had been done.
| Oh, I agree. The Project for the New American Century, the neocon group that served as the seedbed for the Bush administration's foreign policy, wanted to invade Iraq, but had no "legitimate" excuse for war until September 11 provided cover.
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12-04-2003, 07:47 AM
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Excuse?
The excuse was there for 13 years. The politically acceptable justifications.
Just like that drug dealing suspect selling to kids but leaving little legally actionable evidence. When a kid dies with implications of any sort leading to the drug dealer action is then taken.
Saddam had those ties. Known terrorist harboring of a few, and payments to terrorist families. Support of terrorism was loosely tied to him.
Coupled with his inability or unwillingness to comply with world body resolutions made for a big bunch of booms.
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12-04-2003, 09:23 AM
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9/11 gave Bush the excuse he needed, but the invasion would have happened anyway, IMO. It was inevitable once he was elected. He would have used the same reasoning, only it may have been a tad more difficult to get it to fly with the Brits and here at home.
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