"A sacred institution"

[Theophylact]

"Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman," Bush said in a statement released shortly after he arrived in London for a state visit. He said the ruling by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court "violates this important principle."

Just how sacred is it? From Neil Bush's divorce case:

The Bush divorce, completed in April, was prompted in part by [Neil] Bush's relationship with another woman. He admitted in the deposition that he previously had sex with several other women while on trips to Thailand and Hong Kong at least five years ago.

The women, he said, simply knocked on the door of his hotel room, entered and engaged in sex with him. He said he did not know if they were prostitutes because they never asked for money and he did not pay them.

"Mr Bush, you have to admit it's a pretty remarkable thing for a man just to go to a hotel room door and open it and have a woman standing there and have sex with her," Brown said.

"It was very unusual," Bush said.

(The article has a lot of other interesting stuff in it, such as the amount of money the Chinese were willing to pay a man with no skill or expertise to be a consultant, but that, as they say, is another story.)

[Theophylact]

I hasten to add, most of us have at least some embarrassing relatives. Clinton had Roger, Carter had Billy, Nixon had Donald. It's just that here's a real close-to-home example of reality biting.

[M_Six]

Ah, those pesky Presidential Brothers. What would life in the White House be without them?

BTW, did they happen to note the name of that hotel? Not that I would ever stay there, of course.

[J-Excel]

You've got to ask, "Why is it vile for the guy to be screwing around like that?" The answer, of course, is because marriage is a sacred institution. If it weren't, then him screwing around wouldn't be news worthy. This is only news because he violated a sacred institution. Without knowing it Theo you justified GWBs statement by posting this.

[Blazer06]

what is marrige but an invention?



Blaze

[Theophylact]

"Why is it vile for the guy to be screwing around like that?" The answer, of course, is because marriage is a sacred institution.

J-Excel, that's simply a non-sequitur. When you see a guy falling-down-drunk, you're offended by his behavior even though drink isn't a sacrament.

[J-Excel]

So infidelity is OK as long as it's done in moderation?

[Theophylact]

No; violation of propriety is what's offensive.

It's not excessive sex that's the issue here. I assume you could have as much sex as the two of you would like (as long as you were married) and not offend against George W. Bush's sense of "sacredness."

The thing that's bad about adultery is that it's a betrayal of one's partner. (Unless, of course, it's open and agreed to.) That would be true whether or not one were married, although the term "adultery" requires that at least one of the participants is in fact married.

[John Prophet]

My sisters Jamie Summers doll was married to My Six Million Dollar man..what Six didnt know though, was that on occasion GI Joe was, well, not the freind Six though he was, lol.



Seeing someone fall down drunk gives us a certain feeling..deep down we know its wrong....same as deep down we know adultery or "cheating" is wrong...if we are overhearing a conversation and it is plain that one man is lying to another...deep down we know that is wrong also. That small voice inside tells us these things are wrong.

of course with time and patience, lol..we can override that small voice....just like as a kid I though the behavior of drunks was stupid and childish...little by little I let myself be amused by it, eventually my view was changed enough so that my goal for the night became trying to BE the one being carried home! lol. Now I am back to thinking the original thought, the thought that was right all along....that being drunk and falling down IS STUPID, lol. How much better would my life have been to this point if I had never ventured away from that voice? Well, I can say that the 3 or 4 worse decisions of my life were probably made under the influence, lol....things I wish I could take back.

Think of the countlesssssss men who KNEW that small voice was telling them not to flirt with that secretary, not to buy her that first drink, even at that motel check in window the voice said "dude, your wife and kids are at home thinking you are off on business"....but the dude let the heat of the moment get to him..the built up heat of lots of small mistakes added up....then he cheats on his wife, the other chick gets pregnant.....life as he used to know it has ceased to exist. (then to top it off, he gets more viagra spam FROM the "other" womans email address!!)


Anyway, marraige IS sacred...for one thing its a VOW...remember that word? Uhh as in "promise".

The word "institution"..hmm, I guess I dont really like that word..it seems to cloud the whole issue.

[wallie_x]

If we wish to see our children not come out as neurotic nuts incapable of dealing with life correctly, we should continue to view marriage as an indispensable 'sacred institution.' Infidelity has severe consequences in a marriage; all members of the family unit suffer, especially the children.

Children need stability. They need guidelines and rules in order to form the proper conceptions about theirself and their place in life. The blur of a fallacious moral relativism only serves to confuse them (and adults as well). What’s worse is that further undermining of what little stability is left for them (all for the sake of legitimizing what was once considered perversion) will only serve to further erode the collective psyche of our young.