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11-24-2003, 09:55 PM
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Dubya = a historically great president
he showed amazing leadership in
taking this country into iraq. he was way out front of the public in the beginning, but his strategic foresight won the country over. our lightning fast military
victory showed our military has finally learned something from vietnam. our
victory was so overwhelming, all the
countries in the region had to re-evaluate opposing us.
we established a permanent
base in a critical and unstable part of the world.
we will not soon give up that base.
our presence there exerts a steading
and sobering influence on such neighboring countries as iran and syria.
history has shown, when usa decides
its presence is necessary, we wont go away for a long time, as japan, germany, and korea have found out. a half a century after wars in those nations, we still maintain bases there. Dubya has accomplished something of historic and strategic greatness here.
This is one of the reasons dubya has
historically high popularity ratings
and is a sure thing to be a 2-term president.
it is of historic
importance we stay the course.
to think 4 soldiers killed by terrorists
on an average day
there will make us leave is absurd.
we arent going anywhere. we would rather the battlelines against terrorism be in iraq instead of in new york city.
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11-24-2003, 11:25 PM
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... did we forget to mention that he's spent our funds at a rate never seen or imagined before, creating debt we may never repay, or that our ecomony is fouled up beyond belief...
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11-24-2003, 11:41 PM
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... did we forget to mention that he's spent our funds at a rate never seen or imagined before, creating debt we may never repay, or that our ecomony is fouled up beyond belief...
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11-26-2003, 09:48 AM
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George Bush is not a fiscal conservative. Starting with Rondal Reagan, the Republicans have been the biggest spend thifts in the history of the United States.
George W Bush is so anti-government, people don't understand he is trying to bankrupt it. He is trying to make it so that it is so heavily indebted it can never function.
Everything will be left up to corporate will.
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11-26-2003, 10:25 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ed_S ... did we forget to mention that he's spent our funds at a rate never seen or imagined before, creating debt we may never repay, or that our ecomony is fouled up beyond belief... | NEWS ALERT Federal Reserve reports widespread improvements in U.S. economy. Details soon.
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11-26-2003, 10:45 AM
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First, based upon the spacing of the original post, the text was borrowed from some other source. I also must wonder about the smarts of a person that doesn’t know that proper nouns, such as the names of countries, should be capitalized. The premise is absurd. History will record GWB's tenure equal to Hoover or Coolidge. A do nothing president that caused more problems than he solved.
Second, I don’t’ know what planet this came from evident by: 'he showed amazing leadership in taking this country into iraq?' He did show amazing leadership in taking this country into a needless war with a country (Iraq) that was not a threat nor about to be a threat while ignoring countries that were threats and sacrificing the treasury to do it.
Third, the 'our lightning fast military victory' undercut the claim that Iraq was no treat. The fact that the U.S., could defeat a 3rd world power was not surprise and only a boasting point to the simplest of minds. The results are more conclusive of the hollow victory – we took a country that was neither a threat nor a terrorist operation and turned it into terrorist central. In the meantime, we ignored the terrorists in Afghanistan and allowed the Taliban – the people who are our enemy to return to power.
Fourth, the statement, ‘our presence there exerts a steading (sic) and sobering influence on such neighboring countries as iran and syria’ is as absurd as the entire post. These countries see the U.S. as preoccupied. Our military is stretched thin from an occupation lasting much longer than anticipated that we cannot take on other countries.
Fifth, the Vietnam analogy is laughable. “victory showed our military has finally learned something from Vietnam.” On the contrary, it has shown that we have learned nothing from Vietnam. The failures of our leaders and their inability to separate facts from fiction is just like Vietnam. Moreover, to categorize the Iraq invasion as a ‘victory’ is quite premature.
Sixth, it is clear that this text was originally written long ago based upon the statement, ‘This is one of the reasons dubya has historically high popularity ratings and is a sure thing to be a 2-term president.’ GWB’s approval ratings stand at about 50%, the same as when we assumed office. If he wins re-election, it will be primarily due to his enormous war chest of money donated by the wealthiest in our society not because of any outstanding qualities of this ignorant and shallow man that admits that he doesn’t read the newspapers.
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11-26-2003, 10:49 AM
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J-E, your implication is "see, good economic news. We're going to grow out of the deficit!"
Yes the business cycle seems to be improving. Please calculate how much the economy must improve in order to pay for the out of control budget and the gapping debt? My rough estimate is that the economy must increase by 50-100% in size in order to make up for the lost revenue given away to the richest 1%, the war and increased spending.
SEE: http://www.techimo.com/forum/showthr...man#post885352
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