You will look in vain

[Theophylact]

for the American equivalent.

Who honors our fallen soldiers?

[J-Excel]

Deeply touching.

Too bad any attempt to honor our fallen soldiers in such a way would turn into such a pathetic display of back-stabbing liberal politics that a memorial like this would ultimately do more to dishonor our fallen soldiers than honor them. I am extremely upset, livid in fact, with the liberals in this country for their behavior preventing me from seeing such an honorable event for our war dead.

[MTAtech]

Huh? The liberals are at fault? Rubbish. I suppose the liberals have locked GWB in the White House preventing him from going to the funerals?

November 19, 2003
Mourning in America
By JOHN B. ROBERTS II

John B. Roberts II, who served in the Reagan administration from 1981 to 1985, is author of "Rating the First Ladies: The Women Who Influenced the Presidency."

NAVARRE, Fla. — In the middle of the night on Oct. 23, 1983, the White House learned that suicide bombers had struck in Lebanon. At the Beirut airport, 241 marines were killed in their barracks. Ten minutes later a second suicide bomber killed 58 French soldiers two miles away. The next morning I was asked if I could get away from my job in the White House policy planning office for a few days to handle the press advance if President Ronald Reagan decided to attend a memorial service for the slain marines.

If the president decided to go, I said, I'd go too. I come from a military family. My father fought in World War II, Korea and Vietnam. I understood the importance of honoring fallen troops, but I didn't look forward to going to Camp Lejeune, N.C. I still remembered what it was like to have childhood friends become fatherless overnight.

That evening, on Oct. 24, I received a call on an entirely different military matter. It was from Dana Rohrabacher, one of the president's speechwriters. (He's now a Republican representative from California.) American troops were landing in Grenada, he told me. He asked if I could come back to the White House to help out on a speech about the invasion that the president would give the next morning. We worked late toying with ideas to explain why sending American troops into battle was the right thing to do.

Two days later, with the Grenada invasion under way, the president made up his mind about the memorial service: he was going to go. We had just over seven days to prepare, and so I grabbed the first available flight from Andrews Air Force Base to Camp Lejeune. It was a noisy cargo plane. The crew gave me disposable earplugs and directed me to a seat made of webbing. I felt out of place in my preppy-looking blue blazer and khakis.

The earplugs blocked the engine drone, leaving me to my thoughts. I was uncomfortable about the task ahead. There would be grief, and anger, and raw pain mingled uneasily with patriotism and pride and a search to draw meaning from mind-numbing slaughter.

My job was among the most thankless at such a time. Nobody likes the intrusion of a camera at a time of sorrow. And I was the guy responsible for making sure the press had a ringside seat. I wondered whether I would be welcomed — or reviled.

The Marine public affairs staff members I worked with over the course of the week were professionals. They did their best to be accommodating as I laid on requirements from helicopters and vans to ferry the press, to camera platforms and extra phone lines for filing reports. When my demands exceeded their authority, the issue would move up the chain of the command.

A request by the television networks to cover the memorial service live went all the way to the top. The White House supported the request, but Maj. Gen. Alfred M. Gray Jr., commander of the Second Marine Division at Camp Lejeune, and later the commandant of the Marine Corps, resisted the idea. The general, who at the time was responsible for troops in both Lebanon and Grenada, reminded me sharply that the networks' need for extra phone lines at his headquarters came second to his need to use it as a command center for Marine operations.

I didn't want to pull rank and draw Michael K. Deaver, the president's chief image-maker, into the issue. Something told me the general's concerns were more about propriety than logistics. The atmosphere was tense, but I made my pitch. If coverage was limited to the network news, we would be lucky to get five minutes of broadcast time. Live television, I said, would bring the unedited memorial service into millions of homes, allowing the nation to share not only the grief but also the dignity of the service commemorating the fallen soldiers. The families would still meet privately with the president and Nancy Reagan. The press would not intrude upon that.

Finally, I said that Americans had been shocked by the attack. Letting them share in the full memorial service would help restore pride. The general not only relented, but also invited me to come to the hospital with him to meet wounded marines who had just been evacuated from Grenada.

There has been considerable discussion recently about whether President Bush has done enough to honor the lives of soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. While the president writes letters to the families of soldiers who have been killed and meets privately with them at military bases, he has not attended an open memorial or a military service. That's a mistake.

And if given the opportunity, I would tell the president today what I told the general back then. The commander in chief should publicly honor the individual lives sacrificed in war. He should show his respect in front of the television cameras. A nation is a community, and the lives that are lost belong not just to their families, but to us all. As the only political figure who represents the whole nation, the duty of commemorating these deaths belongs uniquely to the president.

As a fellow Republican, I would also offer Karl Rove some friendly political advice. Skipping memorial services makes the president look weak. It creates the impression that he values his own political standing above the lost lives of servicemen and women. Avoiding the grieving families invites demagoguery because so many of our professional soldiers come from the middle and lower classes of American society, and not the president's own privileged social class. With an election approaching, presenting the picture of a president who has time for fundraisers but not for military funerals would be an egregious mistake.

Finally, there is an asymmetry to the administration's use of the military in presidential events. It is wrong to bask publicly in glory on the deck of an aircraft carrier unless you are also willing to grieve openly for fallen soldiers. You can't wrap yourself in the flag while avoiding flag-draped coffins.

Two networks went live at Camp Lejeune when Nancy and Ronald Reagan arrived for the memorial service. It was a cold November morning. We had deliberately not made a rain plan, so the president and first lady stood under umbrellas. The pool press, sandwiched between the podium and the families, knelt in the soaked grass throughout the service to avoid blocking the mourners' view. I knelt with them. And although I was already shivering with cold, I will never forget the fresh chills that ran through me when I heard the sobs behind me.

The president later said that going to the service was "as hard as anything" he had ever done. Days earlier, working on the Grenada speech, I had seen war almost as an abstraction. With the families at Camp Lejeune, it was depressingly real. At that moment, in that place, I felt a sense of moral accountability for my own minor role in White House affairs. My feelings couldn't have been even a tiny fraction of what the president must have felt that day.

When a subsequent Pentagon review faulted Marine commanders in Beirut for lax security, the president shouldered the blame. "I took the full responsibility," he wrote in his memoir. "I was the one who had sent them there."

For that reason alone, it is time for President Bush to honor the dead.


Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

[MD1032]

Man Theyophwpfnaopnvrpov...it seems every thread you make had sad news or something depressing in it.......

[John Prophet]

Its weird that those who slam the wars want to honor the dead the wars produce, lol.

[J-Excel]

No, they want to parade the dead, not honor them. Big difference.

[Target]

I've held back several times from responding to your diatribes and delusions J-Excel, but couldn't let this one slide. Especially since I have recently watched local members of our armed forces laid to rest, and continue to hold out hope of a safe return for my friends and family that are still serving in this war. Your ultra-conservative right-wing mindset, and the things you say and do, make you no better, and no more right or wrong, than the left-wing ultra-liberals.... it just makes you both narrow-minded and ignorant.

Too bad any attempt to honor our fallen soldiers in such a way would turn into such a pathetic display of back-stabbing liberal politics that a memorial like this would ultimately do more to dishonor our fallen soldiers than honor them.

Good thing you didn't wait for any liberals (or anyone else for that matter) to voice an opinion about an actual scheduled and held memorial of this kind before launching your pre-emtive strike.

I am extremely upset, livid in fact, with the liberals in this country for their behavior preventing me from seeing such an honorable event for our war dead.

Which liberals was that again specifically? Was it the ones that control the White House and have so far neglected to attend any services for our fallen soldiers, and/or prevented mass-coverage of the transportation and arrival of their remains back in the states?

If you were really livid, and felt so strongly about honoring the dead, then you'd attend one of the many ceremonies that have gone on around the country. I know we have had several here.

The honor felt by their fellow soldiers and commanders for having served with them, the pride and thankfulness of the community for their service and sacrafice, and the grief felt by all was genuine..... and not once was there anyone from either side of the political spectrum who prevented the dead and their families from being honored.

Apparently the only one preventing you from seeing a memorial service and/or honorable event in tribute to our war dead is a hypocritical ultra-conservative.... yourself!

[Pexster]

It's always angered me when people conclude or assume that anyone who disagrees with our foreign policy or protests against a war is, therefore, "Against our Troops." With very few exceptions, we ALL "Support our Troops" (to quote the ubiquitous bumper sticker). One could argue that the best way to "Support our Troops" is to bring them home!

(I'm not talking about any specific situation here, because as I've said before, I think we did the right thing in Iraq, just went about it the wrong way.)

JP, why on Earth would you assume ANYONE would not honor our dead?