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11-18-2003, 11:46 PM
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China Renews Threat of War Over Taiwan
And I thought Bill Clinton had em all calmed down. HERE! |
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11-19-2003, 05:05 AM
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You can't keep interfering in other countries affairs under guise of being the Worlds Policeman.
This is the 21st Century after all. When will politicians learn to keep their crummy noses out of other peoples affairs and not keep sacrificing soldiers and money for causes that are at worst. illegal/immoral and, at best, futile?
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11-19-2003, 06:46 AM
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Funny; I thought it was in George W. Bush's reign that China forced down a US plane, seized its code equipment, and held its crew hostage until the US apologized. I guess I must be a liberal dupe for thinking that our macho President could permit something like that to happen.
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11-19-2003, 07:28 AM
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So Taiwans public oppinion should be squelched by a powerful aggressor to the north who feels they should join the communist fold whether they like it or not.
China should be able to impose their will on the people of Taiwan with no assistance from the world community.
I guess I would not mind this if freedom was in jeopardy at the hands of an evil taiwaneese dictator, where china was stepping in to improve the lot in life of the peoples of taiwan. But if they truely wish to remain independent and are offering a fairly high level of freedom I say we (the world community) defend their rights. Quote: Originally posted by shahani You can't keep interfering in other countries affairs under guise of being the Worlds Policeman.
This is the 21st Century after all. When will politicians learn to keep their crummy noses out of other peoples affairs and not keep sacrificing soldiers and money for causes that are at worst. illegal/immoral and, at best, futile? | |
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11-19-2003, 08:03 AM
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erm. they aren't independent. technically it's still China, and that's how the rest of the world (except the USA) looks at it. weird.
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11-19-2003, 08:07 AM
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That's because we believe we have to defend every last country that may be oppressed by anyone (including their neighbor's dog).
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11-19-2003, 08:09 AM
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No; even the US holds to a "one-China" policy (that is, Taiwan as merely a province of China), which is why it doesn't have a Taiwanese embassy here, or allow the President of the Republic of China to make official state visits. The "only" issue, of course, is which one China.
Officially, we favor reunification, but we'd like it to be under a Republic of China rather than a Peoples' Republic of China, and we'd like it not to be as a result of an invasion. In either direction, I hope.
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11-19-2003, 08:13 AM
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Technically not independent. So the will of the people means nothing. people who lived their whole life in a capitalist society and who like it are to be thrust into a (not so pure communist state against their will) Technically perhaps you have a point. But is it right?
what makes people part of a nation is it their will or is it a line on a map?
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11-19-2003, 08:14 AM
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It's the will of the people governing them, really (and the tanks owned by said people).
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11-19-2003, 08:25 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Whir That's because we believe we have to defend every last country that may be oppressed by anyone (including their neighbor's dog). | Well, no; we seem to be content to let Israel do what it wants in the territories it seized. And we were perfectly content to let Indonesia seize, incorporate, and terrorize the inhabitants of East Timor, because the Indonesian government was, uh, anticommunist. And, of course, we didn't mind in the least when Saddam Hussein's Iraq attacked Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran, because Hussein was our friend. And when India annexed Goa, because Nehru's India was democratic and Salazar's Portugal was a dictatorship. And... but why go on?
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