Is this what Justice Moron wanted all along?

[Theophylact]

Time magazine thinks so.

When the court of the Judiciary in Alabama tossed state supreme court Chief Justice Roy Moore out of office last week over his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments from his courthouse, you had to wonder whether his fondest wish had been granted. After all, if his goal were simply to reaffirm the spiritual foundations of the law, he could have done that the way countless other judges and lawmakers have been doing it for decades. Sessions of Congress open with prayer, the Attorney General holds prayer meetings each morning in his office, the Supreme Court routinely asks that "God save the United States and this honorable court." All that seems required for such conduct to persist unchallenged is not to call attention to it.

But if you are intent on convening a national debate about the proper place of God in public life, discretion is no virtue. Judge Moore has been exuberantly defying court orders regarding the Ten Commandments since his early days as a judge in Etowah County when he defended his right to display a homemade rosewood plaque in his courtroom. That crusade helped him get elected as Alabama's chief justice in 2000, so it should have surprised no one when he wheeled the 5,280-lb. monument of the Commandments into the courthouse rotunda in a midnight ceremony and then forced a showdown by refusing to remove it. ...

[M_Six]

Don't you mean Governor Moron?

You know it's going to happen.

[John Prophet]

I cant read the man's mind...but possibly he saw into things that "Time" (magazine) doesnt see....for instance that by forcing the issue it brings it into the spotlight and...key point.... "forces a decision"...and it would be hard for most to understand this...but if you believe in God...(implication also that you believe in the bible etc) then you also know that things will go so far and so far only and that the world (greek word 'cosmos') is definitely going on a direction absolutely opposite from God....maybe the judge (Roy) is just moving the procession on a little faster...cuz when people are forced to decide..then decide they do..one way or the other. In this case America clearly decided against God....as of course it would.

see 1 Kings 18:21where Elijah the prophet was confronting the children (people) of Isreal with their worship of foreign "god" called "Baal". He asked em a simple question. Sort of a yes or no thing. Similar to what America just faced with this very public Ten Commandments case.

1 Kings 18:21------> "And Elijah came to all the people, and said, "How long will you falter between two opinions? If the LORD [is] God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him."

So it was sort of like a "are you going to follow God or not?". They chose God in that case.

America chose "not". For about the thousandth time.

And just to lay it out like it really is....when we stand before God, hiding behind the constitution of this country or that wont make a dirty hill of beans.

JP

[Theophylact]

And just to lay it out like it really is....when we stand before God, hiding behind the constitution of this country or that wont make a dirty hill of beans.

I'll take that chance. And you can go ahead and believe whatever you want. Just stop trying to force it down other peoples' throats. As a letter to the New York Times said today,

There is reason to be concerned that millions of our fellow citizens believe that the Bible, not the Constitution, is the law of the land. I find that deeply disturbing.

[John Prophet]

Quote---> "Just stop trying to force it down other peoples' throats"


lol. Hey buddy, you are the one who CONTINUALLY posts day in and out concerning religion. If you cant take a different viewpoint..well that shows that your beliefs have left you weak.

In my posts I dont go for a "forcing down the throat" method at all. I just lay it out there. Like food on a buffet. Take it or leave it.

But if you cant stand the heat, you do you invite it??

You seem like a boxer who jumps in the ring..throws a lot of wild punches..misses...then when he gets popped with a nice smooth jab, he whines all the way home, lol.

You shouldnt take others viewpoints as personal attacks. I dont.

[shahani]

I can't stand people like Moore. Hypocritical and nasty to an extreme.

I don't see him getting elected to anything.

Just like to see him fade away into oblivion.

[Theophylact]

I can take the heat just fine, John Prophet. And "you" was meant generically, not specifically applying to you personally.

But it's clear you (personally, now) speak as a member of a community of believers that thinks it's just fine to "lay out there, like food on a table", a doctrine that belongs to one special sect and present it as an official offering of the State. Maybe I don't have to swallow it, but I'd much rather that the offering be made in your church, not our court.

[John Prophet]

lol. You are good at grouping people together huh. I think if you were a painter the only brush in your kit would be a nice wide roller.

I see that all along anyway...I mentioned before that you post up the silliest things you can find to try to discredit others. As if that puts your beliefs in some better light. No offense, but that is sort of a third grade mentality isnt it? Sort of discredits you more or less.

I mean, I guess I am not a psychologist but I dont see why you just dont say "I hate God and all Christians, I want christians and all references to god out of my country"...do that in one big post and have over with it, lol. I just dont see why you let it bug you so much that you have to post it up every single day. Are you that threatened by it?




Also as if everyone named as a "Christian" is in some way or form in agreement about every issue, lol. The word "Christian" is so broad now that it really doesnt mean anything. A lot of people actually equate "christian as meaning "american".

And I dont really care what doctrine the state offers, lol. So you are wrong on all counts as far as I can tell. (of course there is the smallpoint that the "court" as you are so nobly defending the honor of...was STARTED, FOUNDED, CREATED largely based on those same ten commandments. I know that doesnt mean much to you but it is a consideration. Sort of like me having kids, then the kids locking me out of the house. Or my kids inviting over their friends and the friends locking me out)

Besides, are you so blind that you cant see the tide and gathering momentum?...look, you are getting your wish as we speak!!...with gathering momentum any reference to God is being stripped away from the goverment and then after that, the country itself. Prayer is out of schools. Monuments etc torn down. "In God we trust" surely will come off the money eventually. So you should just sit back, have a cool iced tea and enjoy it. After all, YOU'RE WINNING!! lol/


Oh, by the way, I dont even go to church, lol.


I present a different viewpoint to you not because I am driven to, but just for your benefit. All you have to do is say the word and Ill refrain from replying to your various threads.

[RayH]

Senator....

[wallie_x]

Theo sez:

But it's clear you (personally, now) speak as a member of a community of believers that thinks it's just fine to "lay out there, like food on a table", a doctrine that belongs to one special sect and present it as an official offering of the State. Maybe I don't have to swallow it, but I'd much rather that the offering be made in your church, not our court.

You don't know much about our history, do you Theo?

It isn’t easy to see, considering it’s perched 555 feet above the National Mall, but sitting atop the Washington Monument is a 100-ounce pyramid of solid aluminum inscribed with the phrase Laus Deo, “Praise be to God.”

from a letter entitled "The Church/State Separation Fallacy"
by U.S. Rep. John Hostettler August 1, 2001



Gee, How did the inscription "Praise Be To God!" get up there on top the Washington Monument?
(If there isn't suppose to be such state sanctioned symbols)