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Old 11-13-2003, 08:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tom DeLay: Telemarketer

(playing bait and switch with "awards").

Oh, by the way: since these are either "political" or "charitable" (depending on your political affiliation), they're not covered by the Federal "Do Not Call" rule.


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Old 11-14-2003, 09:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Brought to you by the party the fixed the last election and needed urgently to go to war!

This is SHAMELESS and a big middle finger to the American people!
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Old 11-14-2003, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sheesh - at least you're fair minded ray! Fixed the last election.... riiiiiighhht.


and the war thing - you know, there were a bunch of people against going into ww2, also... history will decide.

as far as this incident - agreed. dispicable. and yes, i'm a conservative. but i'm not blinded by ideology. i can make fair assessments about what is right and wrong, and will be the first to criticize unfair or wrong behavior (as i did when defending the coverage of the clinton-lewinsky ordeal - the real embarrassment to the nation was the press pimping out america's integrity.)

So try to be a little more fair and open-minded...
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Old 11-14-2003, 09:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-15-2003, 12:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The only pimping is going on is the clique in Washington hiding under the mantle of CONSERVATISM is looting the American treasury and calling it fiscal responsibility! Wake up!

The President laid the whole purpose of the war out before the first shot was fired. American corporations were going to rebuild Iraq and Iraqi oil is to pay for the contracts! That is, Iraq is going to buy billions of dollars of American goods and services whether they want to or not!

These contracts were and still are being awarded in secret. The $84 billion appropriation had $2 Billion for Halliburton. Nobody can explain what the $2 Billion is for.

Two goofs in the original calculation. The first is the Iraqi oil is not ready to pump as fast as they thought. It's only pumping at 1/10 the estimated rate.

The second is the resistance in Iraq is heavier than anticipated. No money and a lot of dead people for some greedy corporations!

Somebody around here doesn't think there aren't Iraqis that know big construction? Who do you think built the country before it got blown up? Iraqi engineering companies are being locked out of the rebuilding process. They can only work as subcontractors!

Saddam Hussein used to award contracts to his cronies. Now the U.S. Defense Department is awarding contracts to their cronies. Iraqis are not sharing in the wealth!

Check out www.pbs.org Bill Moyers' "Now." The above was laid out by CONSERVATIVES!!! By former members of the Iraqi ruling council that were flown in by the US to build a new government!
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so much for fair and open minded. guess i was asking too much.
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Check out www.pbs.org Fair and open minded means checking out FACTS!!!!!
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i've had this debate a billioin times and seen the so-called "facts". just skimmed your link and it's more of the same.

the left's arguments on this point are paper thin and contrived. and have shifted a million times. the vitriol is a little tiresome to me.

How about you read a bunch of links from points of view in favor of the iraqi action and then get back to me. while you're busy doing that ( right, that'll happen!) I'm giong to sleep.
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