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Old 11-13-2003, 05:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Judicial nominees (30 hr talkathon)

Don't care who you vote for but. Republicans keep missing
the opportunity to smack their competition.

Democrats manage to spout off that the republicans are wasting
Senate resources. Wasting time.

I just do not understand why the Republicans don't fire back with the fact that the minority was wasting time with the filibusters.

This whole matter waste of time is in fact a direct result of democrat obstruction. Were they to simply allow nominees to come to a vote of their fellow senators there would be no delay or waste of time.

Republicans are just not as effective at PR.

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Old 11-13-2003, 06:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's easy, because the filibusters doesn't take time. This isn't a filibusters as seen in the old move, 'Mr. Smith goes to Washington,’ where no business is conducted because the floor is tied up. In this filibusters other business is conducted, except for those times about once a month when the Reps try to bring the matter to the floor for vote.

As for the Republicans being not as effective at PR, the Republican spin machine is whirring at full speed. The Republicans were claiming (lying) that the Democratics were opposing the candidates because they are anti-Hispanic, anti-Catholic, anti-black and anti-women. They didn't mention that the same judicial candidates were opposed by Hispanic, black [black caucus, NAACP], women and religious groups. Nor did they mention that many other approved candidates were members of those groups.

The fact is that the Senate has a responsibility to review life-time judicial appointments. The Republican Senators want to rubber-stamp all Presidential nominees. A few of these nominees are extremists and should be blocked. These are positions some of these nominee have:
-don't believe that zoning laws are constitutional
-doesn't believe that states have a right to limit the amount of time a person (like doctors) can work during a week
-a person has no right of privacy in a doctor's office - it's ok to have a drug salesman in the room watching when a women is being privately examined.
- one, as a judge, tried to get a convicted cross burner out of jail.
-one nominee refused to answer questions about his professional past or his positions on matters. (I wouldn't hire someone that wouldn't answer that question, let alone give him a life-time job.)

The Democrats are the only ones living up to their constitutional responsibility. They have approved 168 of Bush's nominees and are blocking 4. That's 98% approval, so what are the Republicans complaining about? Bush should withdraw these 4 nominees and appoint others. That's what Clinton did when the Republican Senate blocked his nominees.
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The Republicans only approved 61% of Clinton's nominees. This congress has approved freakin' 98% of Bush's nominees and the Republicans are crying about the Dems blocking four poor choices? What is it with Republicans? They've been feeding their faithful crap while calling it caviar for so long and the faithful keep lapping it up and going, "Mmmmmm. Tastes good." Time to wake up and smell the doo-doo folks.
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Old 11-13-2003, 08:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What were the reasons republicans rejected the 39%?

I can't remember the history of it. Did they fail to vote in their favor or did they keep the votes from hitting the floor by filibuster?

I do not remember a bunch of nominee filibusters during clintons term.
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Republicans are just not as effective at PR.
No.

They are so full of hot air no amount of PR can improve their position.
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Old 11-13-2003, 10:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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What were the reasons republicans rejected the 39%?

I can't remember the history of it. Did they fail to vote in their favor or did they keep the votes from hitting the floor by filibuster?

I do not remember a bunch of nominee filibusters during clintons term.

back to the subject and spirit of the post.
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I can't remember the history of it. Did they fail to vote in their favor or did they keep the votes from hitting the floor by filibuster?

I do not remember a bunch of nominee filibusters during clintons term.
They didn't have the votes to get them out of the Judicial Committee.
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The republicans should bypass the filibuster and just put it to a vote. Judicial nominees aren't supposed to fall under the filibuster rule, which would require 60 votes. The Consitution calls for a simple majority (51 votes) to confirm. Holding a filibuster violates the Constitution. Gee, the Democrats fighting the Constitution to get what they want... that's a new strategy.
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Old 11-13-2003, 09:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i like to watch c-span when i come home since that is all basic cable has anyway, what is the deal with the 30 hour talkathon? I just....dont get it. I dont understand how talking for 30 hours will do anything...could someone please enlighten me?
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