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11-06-2003, 09:10 AM
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Major Chutzpah! Illegals suing Wal Mart.
Maybe this will bring things to a head. They want to be treated like the burgler who breaks his ankle in your house and sues you! http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm
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11-06-2003, 09:35 AM
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Families in Mexico are suing the Federal government for the deaths of their relatives because the U.S. doesn't provide water drinking stations in the Arizona desert and the illegals died of thirst.
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11-06-2003, 12:12 PM
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Question:
- Does Wal-mark have an obligation to follow federal law?
If so, they have a legal obligation to pay there workers what the law mandates, namely overtime, benefits, etc. The law also mandates that no employer can discriminate based upon race, religion or nation origin.
Unlike the example of the burglar in your home who arrived without your consent, nobody forced Wal-Mart to hire illegal workers. In fact, Wal-Mart violated the law doing so and probably did it because they thought they could get away with exploiting them. Given that nobody forced Wal-Mart to hire these workers in the first place, Wal-Mart has an obligation to treat and pay them as any other worker.
Wal-Mart should, therefore, not be unduly enriched for violating federal law which would be exactly what would happen if they were allowed to discriminate between these workers and others. Moreover, allowing them to do so would encourage other employers to violate the law also.
Maybe I should have gone to law school.
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11-06-2003, 12:18 PM
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The didn't work for Wal-Mart. THey worked for a company contracted by Wal-Mart. The illegals obviously would get more money trying to sue Wal-Mart rather than some cheap housekeeping company.
Hopefully this sends a message out throughout all business that they need to fire all illegal aliens immediately and turn them into the INS.
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11-06-2003, 12:25 PM
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And then half of Congress and most of the CEOs in America will have to take the day off to watch their kids and clean their own houses.
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11-06-2003, 12:39 PM
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J-E, what it means is that we need to have a foreign worker policy that makes sense. Nobody wants illegals in the country but everyone wants the work that they provide. So, we officially don't allow it and look the other way when they work.
If there weren't illegals, think of all the lawns that wouldn't get mowed, the toilets that wouldn't be cleaned, etc. It isn't like these people are freeloading, they are providing an economic benefit to the country. The guy that rebuilt my brick front steps and driveway is a man from Peru that isn't documented. He did artful work - better than others. Well, why shouldn't he be allowed to stay legally? He's making the country better and contributing to the economy.
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11-06-2003, 12:40 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by MTAtech J-E, what it means is that we need to have a foreign worker policy that makes sense. Nobody wants illegal in the country but everyone wants the work that they provide. So, we officially don't allow it and look the other way when they work.
If there weren't illegals, think of all the lawns that wouldn't get mowed, the toilets that wouldn't be cleaned, etc. It isn't like these people are freeloading, they are providing an economic benefit to the country. The guy that rebuilt my brick front steps and driveway is a man from Peru that isn't documented. He did artful work - better than others. | I couldn't have said it better.
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11-06-2003, 12:42 PM
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Here here, more illegals, less welfare mothers!!
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11-06-2003, 12:42 PM
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So what's wrong with paying a fair wage and giving those jobs to Americans, as opposed to paying a fair wage and leaving them with illegals?
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11-06-2003, 12:53 PM
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There's no such thing as a "fair wage" for some jobs. You start paying Walmart cleaning crews and other low-end jobs enough money to live on, you have to find more money somewhere else to pay the increased wages. The money has to come from somewhere. So the prices of everything goes up to support the new wages. Then folks in other job fields ask for more money so they can pay the higher prices. And when it all balances out, the cleaning guy at Walmart is still not making enough to live on. Crying for "fair wages" is noble and all, but try coming up with a workable way of doing it.
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