Red Cross Target of Baghdad Suicide Bombings

[ClubMed]

Originally posted by pickel
Don't knock our additudes til you've lived over here for a while !!

Don't post in any damn thread if you are not prepared to read the whole thread first !!

[ClubMed]

Rant mode off.
Sleep mode on.
end of story.

[pickel]

"Are any of the Arab peoples free to do what they want at the momment?"



Our country was born the REVOLUTION. If the terrorists can get guns, rocket propelled grenades, why can't the good , honest , freedom seeking citizens put THIER @ss on the line and fight for themselves???? One sniper would be worth at at least 10 trained soldiers. You have to WANT freedom that bad and be willing to stand up for freedom to deserve freedom. I feel for the folks in other parts of this miserable planet but I can only do for me as they have to do for themslves. Feedom is not easy, it's not given , you have to take and hold on to it with any means possible. I guess, never having to experienced repression, it's hard to understand but not to be empathetic. The sooner that people reaslize that working together , instead of death and destruction is the venue of progress, the sooner we can all be drinking a beer and chatiing on the net. But I have no expectation of such an event any time soon.

[Chuckiechan]

This is one view of Muslim charities...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/garrett.html

slamic charities took the place of government shortfalls. In other words, in governments where there were accusations of corruption, goods designed to get to certain people which never got there because of ripoffs at one place or another, the Islamic charities were supposedly established in order to fulfill a need. And they were built up around mosques. They were the madrassa system, the idea of government support to Islamic support, in and around the mosques themselves. I think [it] first came to my knowledge, at least, at that time.

... It's consistent with the whole thought process of a good Muslim that he has to give, or that he has to support the needy. I think what's happened over the years, though, as one has watched the charities evolve, is that they have turned into ... fundraising mechanisms that are used in the international context, in the service of the growth of Islam, sort of a proselytizing sort of Islam. And there, you get larger-scale contributions. And the potential for misdirecting money, or for using it in a way which crosses the line from social welfare into political purposes -- it becomes more possible at that level. ...

The modern charities in Muslum countries are principly conduits for terriorism and furthering the interests of Islamunism. BTW, If you weren't Muslim you got nothing. (except maybe a bayonet in Iraq).

ClubMed: At what point does the rubber hit the road with you? Where does a pacifist either take up arms or lay in front of a tank. Just where is your march button?

[ClubMed]

Your link does not qualify as a serious or deep study of Islamic charities in general. In addition to the questionable source you seem intent on making one blatant generalisation after another in nearly all your posts that deal with Arabs or Islam.

The more you post, the more you reveal how little you know about this subject, it's surprising that you are not ashamed about this, you continue to post as though you are engaged in a serious debate with valid arguments and opinions.

I don't think you deserve too much attention. It suffices to say that you are quite misguided, probably due to the news sources you frequent.

As a final note, I am not a pacifist, never was. My ‘march button’ was pressed along time ago by the actions of the authoritarian regimes in the region, and foreign powers wrestling to get a hold in the region at any cost. Both need to be fought with all methods possible.

[IC]

Seems like the suicide bombers are being attacked by the equally suicidal Hassidim to me.

All something to do with Martrydom and "religious" fatalism.

Or something about a hole, apparently.

[IC]

Originally posted by ClubMed
Your link does not qualify as a serious or deep study of Islamic charities in general. etc.

If you are looking for a "serious" or a "deep" study of religion LOOK NO FURTHER than the two holes of Sodom and Gomorah.

These are the Sea of Galilee and the Dead Sea which are currently 420 metres below sea level.

Quite profound really.

Enlightening, or insulting?