Will Dems 'bug out' of Iraq?

[crouse]

Ironic that I find the story in none other than The Decatuar Daily Democrat

Will Dems 'bug out' of Iraq?

http://www.decaturdailydemocrat.com/...ditorial01.txt

By every standard except the short-term political, Democratic presidential candidates Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., and former Vermont governor Howard Dean have made a catastrophic decision in saying that they oppose President Bush's $87 billion aid package for Iraq.

Another candidate, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. - who claims to be a national security expert - has said that he's leaning toward the same politically suicidal and unconscionable position taken by Dean and Edwards.

Face it: Voting against the $87 billion means voting not to support U.S. troops now fighting for their lives and voting against the reconstruction of Iraq, where people's desperation will make life more dangerous for U.S. troops.

Such a vote is a vote to bug out of Iraq and leave it to the tender mercies of Saddam Hussein, his followers and international terrorists who will kill everyone who associated themselves with the United States and the goal of democratization.

If this were to be U.S. policy, it would destroy this country's standing in the world and fulfill the calculation of Osama bin Laden (and maybe Hussein, too): that the United States is a country of "weakness, frailty and cowardice" easily chased away when inflicted with even modest casualties.

Among the other leading Democratic candidates, Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., and Rep. Richard Gephardt, D-Mo., have forthrightly declared that America has to spend the money.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark put out the lame statement, "I'm running for president, not for Congress." But this is a presidential decision if there ever was one.

Even Kerry's hesitation about supporting the money is an indication that he is what Lieberman described him as months ago: an "uncertain trumpet" on issues of war and peace. And if a majority of Democrats in either the House or the Senate ends up voting against the military supplemental spending bill, it will put a fatal brand on the Democratic Party as the bug-out party.

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[pickel]

I really don't care what happens to Iraq, Iran, Tiawan or the the whole world in general, but our troops should have anything and everything at thier disposal. They didn't ask for this dumbass war, but they're stuck over there and need all the assistance and support that we can give them. I'd rather see my tax dollars go to them instead of junkies and unwed mothers( just to name a few ) anyday !!!

[RADAR1797]

Pickel,

You know nobody gave a rat's ass about Afghanistan either after the Soviets left. Do you think leaving a country where we removed any law and order (albeit evil impliments of control) will somehow make Iraq our friend? No, the populace will be even more bitter than before our invasion and will blame the US (whether justifiably or not) for every ill they experience for the next century. We are better off now rebuilding Iraq with a democratic government and convincing the populace that they can build a free country.

-RADAR

[Ed_S]

Face it: Voting against the $87 billion means voting not to support U.S. troops now fighting for their lives

BULL!
Two separate issues.

I'm downright SICK TO DEATH of this "damn the cost - full speed ahead!" attitude!

YES - we should support our troops, seeing to it they have the best artillery and protection available.

YES - we should pay for whatever damage WE inflicted.

YES - we should maintain a presence in Iraq until an actual government has been established, using as little personnel as reasonably possible.

THAT'S ALL!!

Rebuilding all the damage Hussein left behind, restoring services like water, electric, fire protection, etc, - all these things are NOT OUR PROBLEM and have NOTHING to do with any of the excuses given for going there!!

These things may be vital & badly needed, but Iraq is an OIL RICH COUNTRY with the means to pay their own way - why are WE paying for all this?




I have never voted for a Democrat for president before, mostly Republican for ANY offices, for that matter. But if this garbage continues, I'll be voting the straight Dem ticket for a long while!

[RADAR1797]

Ed_S,

Artillery? Obviously you are not in touch with what our troops are facing. Howitizers do little towards improvised bombs. Leave the arm chair generaliship to the military.

-RADAR

[Ed_S]

Artillery, armament, weapons - whatever phrase fits. Tools for defending themselves in a lethal manner. You got my meaning.

[pickel]

"Rebuilding all the damage Hussein left behind, restoring services like water, electric, fire protection, etc, - all these things are NOT OUR PROBLEM and have NOTHING to do with any of the excuses given for going there!! "


I'll second that !!!! However....


" We are better off now rebuilding Iraq with a democratic government and convincing the populace that they can build a free country".


I have to agree, however reluctantly, with this statement also.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. thanks G.W.

[RADAR1797]

No I don't get your meaning. You are frustrated, but not logically so. The President covers your concerns; the media does not. Do you believe that we will leave Iraq unless it is a viable democratic state? That will not happen. Frankly of other states in the Middle East, Iraq stands the best chance. Only b/c it is not an Islamic state, but rather b/c it is a "panarabic" state designed to be socialist and not Islamic.

-RADAR