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09-30-2003, 08:57 AM
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MTAtech: Common sense!
Part of the test of citizenship is having ties to the "community". Family, home, kids in school, etc. If voting isn't a "tie to the community" I don't know what is. Thus, the incentive is to become as "American" as possible and hope for the next wave of amnesty to include you.
Of course most law abiding aliens won't sign up to vote, but if only 20% of the illegals in California do, thats 400,000 votes! That is a strong incentive for those that want to suck the lilfe out of "El Norte" with the help of Bustamonte and Davis and the rest of the "La Mecha".
BTW Gringo, try getting a job in a Mexican run business here in the USA. Won't happen. Discrimination? You bet!
BTW2: The only way an illegal can be cought voting illegally is for someone to complain and ask for an investigation of that person. There is no "Enforcement Division of Voting". We rely on the honesty of the individual. Is being an illegal alien descriptive of an honest person? Maybe 80% of them.
BTW3: How would you prove you were legal if asked? Do you carry a birth certificate? No, you would show your driver's license.
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09-30-2003, 10:08 AM
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Drivers licenses for illegals are clearly for pandering purposes.
Davis has fought the legislation 2 or 3 times but now that he is behind in the polls, with no explaination he switches his ideals.
As for Arnold debating davis, please tell me what the point is. Arnold is not running against davis.
Davis is a forgone conclusion, history... it would be a complete waste of time. Why bother to subject yourself to davis's rhetoric if davis is not a viable candiate?
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09-30-2003, 11:51 AM
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Davis is not a candidate. He's had his debate and the voters will decide next Tuesday how he did.
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09-30-2003, 11:56 AM
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There is no requirement to show ANY ID when voting in California. If I know someone is not going to vote all I have to do is show up at their polling place, give their name, and give their address and I get a ballot.
Similarly, there is NO requirement to prove legal residency in California when registering to vote.
Why do you think Loretta Sanchez is in the House of Representatives?
For Arnold's policies go to: ARNOLD'S AGENDA TO BRING CALIFORNIA BACK
The dirt is starting to fly already. L.A. unions are busing members here to San Diego this weekend to canvas minority neighborhoods to get out the vote against the recall and to get out the vote for BustaMecha.
Bill
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09-30-2003, 12:40 PM
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Schwarzenegger Gets My Vote
Fox News, Dennis Miller
"Hey, get this...I want to talk about this Wednesday’s debate for governor in the once great state of California. Lets take a quick look at the racing form.
Schmooze Bustamante. Schmooze is in more hip pockets than a watch on a chain. He didn’t really swallow his medicine, but he at least appeared to wash it around in his mouth at a couple of junctures when painted into a culpable corner, before spitting it out when the audience was being upbraided by the whiny moderator for the umpteenth time.
Note to moderator: Some people have a stick up their butt, you have Excalibur. Bustamante didn’t lay a glove on Arnold. He seemed somewhat intimidated because if I’m not mistaken Arnold already defeated MEChA in one of his films.
Tom McClintock. Good man, but can’t win. And the sane people in California can’t afford to not win this time. McClintock can fall on his sword and enter the pantheon of selfless lore, or hang in there and become a pariah in the arid desert of post-nuclear Bustamanteville.
I think he’s too smart. I think he ejects and is rewarded with first shot at the appropriately named Barbara Boxer, who in a debate with a well-versed wonk like McClintock would look absolutely punch drunk. Check out that debate and you’ll see a deboning cleaner than anything you’ve ever witnessed at Nobu.
The Green Party guy. He doesn’t just fan the class warfare fire, he brings out the industrial-sized bellows and gets it white hot like those glass blowers in Venice. I thought the Green name had something to do with the environment but obviously it’s all about envy. There are a lot of problems in California, but under-taxing is not one of them.
There are people in California now who are contemplating turning all their money over to the state government because they believe they’ll have more access to it as a petitioner than they will as the actual proprietor.
Arnold. The larger than life character who, of the four, came off as the everyman. My candidate. A brilliant track record. Has taken on two endeavors in his adult life and became the biggest success in the world at both of them. The only salvo the opposition can summon so far is some, “wild behavior” in his twenties. Hey, I’ll tell you how deranged I was in my twenties, I might have voted for Gray Davis.
Got that?"
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09-30-2003, 01:00 PM
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There is talk of Dennis Miller running against Boxer for the Senate.
Can't wait for the debates.
Bill
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09-30-2003, 01:41 PM
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Bill, most states do not request ID when voting. It's up to each state to determine how they want to verify identity. In the four states I've voted in, this is done by having the voter sign a form and doing a comparison to the voter registration form.
Of course, in three of the four states where I've voted, they used punch card ballots and never had a problem.
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09-30-2003, 03:36 PM
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My absentee ballot is a punch card which I punched out with a ball point pen!
In my district Arnold was # 83! I actually had to hunt for him.
BTW: In Florida, the Demo's had a lot of people bussed in who couldn't read. They were told to go down three holes and punch. That led to the criticism of the "butterfly ballot" since all of these "diverse" people would never have voted for Buchannon...Too bad they couldn't read! But they got $ 20.00 & lunch anyway. BTW2: my brother in law was a precinct worker, and helped several people who were illiterate, but asked for help.
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09-30-2003, 06:32 PM
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| Arianna Huffington will announce she is dropping out without endorsing anyone.
...to no one's surprise and with no noticeable effect on the polls.
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09-30-2003, 07:47 PM
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This past week I was at a trade show in Las Vegas. One of the busiest booths was the "Let us help you move to Nevada" booth!
Not a good future of California.
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