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Old 09-29-2003, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ACLU Challenges Music Industry in Court

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/29/bu...ia/29aclu.html

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The industry subpoena is one of many recently filed under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, a law that gives copyright holders broad powers to get the names of suspected infringers from Internet service providers.

But the civil liberties suit claims that the subpoenas, which can be issued with little judicial oversight or involvement, go beyond even what the law allows. The group also claims that the law itself is unconstitutional, because it does not provide for the judicial review of requests or notification of the target of the investigation.

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Old 09-29-2003, 09:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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With any luck, all the lawyers in this case will line up on opposite sides, aim their guns and fire simultaneously. What fun that would be!!
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Old 09-29-2003, 09:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey, daveleau, maybe here's something the ACLU can please you with...
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Although I wouldn't go so far as to "applaud" the ACLU, I'd be happy to provide ammunition in the event of said duel.
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Old 09-29-2003, 01:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey, daveleau, maybe here's something the ACLU can please you with...
Nope.

A- I am not the only one that despises the ACLU for their evil deeds. I am one of millions.

B- I don't agree with the way the RIAA is handling their attempts to stop music theft nor do I agree with their price-fixing which can be said to have led to the theft, but people that DL music illegally should be tried in court and fined if caught. And, if there is reason to believe that user A DLed a ton of music, then their information should not be private. They broke the law and when you break the law, you are handing in your rights for a set of more-restricted rights. This is more of the same with the ACLU- going against what the country is for. Now in addition to supporting child abuse and child murder and pretty much every sick and twisted cause in the US, we can add that the ACLU supports theft.

C- The only way the ACLU could ever please me would be to routinely act in a moral and ethical way. I have not seen them do such routinely in my lifetime nor have I seen them routinely do such in my perusal of their history.
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Weee! Everybody, WAKE UP! It's open season on the RIAA!

Muahahahaha.
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They broke the law and when you break the law, you are handing in your rights for a set of more-restricted rights.
In America one is presumed innocent until proven guilty - at least, until John Ashcroft is finished. Nobody broke the law until the jury concludes as such. Until then, everyone has guaranteed protections.

Amendment IV od the U.S. Constitution

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."


If the the RIAA or the government want to see the files on your computer, let them go through the trouble of getting a court order.
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