Why don't these people just kill themselves????

[pickel]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/09/...und/index.html


Let the kids live and try to fine some happiness in their lives. I hope he finds the hottest place in his hell and suffers for all eternity.

[NeoStarO1]

Pickle,

Im a tad confused with your thread title. Your title states "these people" meaning to me more than one person.

The father did kill himself and also tried to take some of his children with him. Bad man to do that, should have gotten help.

So who else are you refering to when you state, "Why don't these people just kill themselves".

[pickel]

Remember the mother that drowned her babies, or the man that shot his children then killed himself. All these were in the news recently. And the countless others that either shoot, strave or find some other way to take out their frustrations on their young and innocent. Civilized justice is too good for these people.

[NeoStarO1]

Oh Okay, so you are referring to more than one story. Okay that explains it. Thanks for the explaination.


I for myself more or less stop reading the news just because of stories like this. it was and is too disheartening and I'd rather be ignorant of these happenings.

I want a newspaper that is nothing but good news.

[Theophylact]

It's a grammar problem; he said "just kill themselves", but he meant "kill just themselves".

[no1_vern]

You forget, almost every one of these people BELEIVED they were doing "the correct thing" that it was right, or is righteous, or "was the best for them")!

So It begs the question, is our society at fault or is the individual person at fault? Also remember that these types of incidents(parents killing their children) and then OFFING themselves are VERY RARE.

Quote:

People today love themselves most of all. And money. And sex. They´re arrogant and obnoxious, ungrateful and sarcastic. In their youth, they disobey their parents; married, they disrespect, lie to and cheat on their spouse. Increasingly, people don´t even love their own family members. They ‘buy off´ their kids with money, cars, and ‘stuff.´ Or they leave for a trophy wife or husband. They murder their children in the bathtub, or their little brother in the backyard, or their parents in a mansion. Most have no self-control, be it food, soap operas, drugs, alcohol, sex or whatever; it´s all about their own pleasure. They belittle others, yet won´ t look at their own reckless behavior, getting people pregnant, giving and getting sexually transmitted diseases, driving drunk or stoned, etc. They don´t believe in the Christian God, but are continually coming up with some new ‘spirituality,´ crystals or pyramids or some such, all the while railing at the ‘hypocrisy´ of Christians.

From: http://toogoodreports.com/column/gen...s/20020508.htm

[osprey4]

Originally posted by no1_vern
You forget, almost every one of these people BELEIVED they were doing "the correct thing" that it was right, or is righteous, or "was the best for them")!

So It begs the question, is our society at fault or is the individual person at fault?

Society at fault? You can't be serious! Tell me you're joking.

[MatrixmaN]

It's the individual.

They are just messed up people, like the columbine kids.

Some people have no self control, some people believe they are right and cant see their actions from a logical 3rd person perspective.

[no1_vern]

Tell me, do you honestly believe they would have done the same things if they HAD NOT been wrapped up in a society like ours?

DO NOT THINK that that relieves the person of his/her responsability to know right from wrong! I am not saying that. I AM saying that because of social(societal) pressures some people can lose sight of what is right and what is wrong. For example the woman who drown her 2 young sons believed she was justified in killing them so her "new" boyfriend would love her more. Which, to some in our society(not me), is more important than having a child or children to take care of.

Example:
A man and woman living out in the country, their 2 boys helping the father with the farming chores during the morning. In the afternoon when its too hot the mother teaches her children while the father continues working the farm. The last person this family has seen was the sheep herder from the next valley over(technically their next door neighbor) who visited them two months ago to trade 2 ewes the use of one of their horses until the end of autumn.

While this is an imperfect analogy I do not see either parent "needing" to kill their children for any reason. The most important concern for the family is its survival. Not its concern over who thinks what about their social status.

[osprey4]

Although it is true that the "heart is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things...", there are moral absolutes which are known to everyone. Knowing that murdering your children is wrong among them.