Iraqi girlfriends capture GI hearts

[Terminal23]

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...29irmarry.html
In spite of the prohibition, the soldiers -- National Guardsmen from the Florida Panhandle -- converted to Islam in an Iraqi court a couple of weeks before the ceremony.
Simply Amazing Whats next?

[Bovon]

Yes it really is amazing. I hope them well, but their surviving this with their lives will be a problem.

This also speaks volumes about the training and how well the military man (or woman) of today does his or her job. When I was in service, there was no way in hadies I would have gone thru such as this without getting some brig time at the very least. Those guys are telling the whole world that their affairs come first, before any other law or command, civil or military.

In view of what we know from the news artical..if true..these guys (if they and their families survive) should be "allowed" to remain in Iraq once their tour of duty is over.. perhaps returned to the U.S. for normal rotation and discharged, then returned to their family in Iraq.

I do not feel like they should be rewarded for disobedience. They took an oath when they went in the service. It appears they allowed that to be put on hold.

[427Windsorman]

I do not feel like they should be rewarded for disobedience. They took an oath when they went in the service.

Exactly.

[Creatures]

what's the problem with that? let them live their lives! who cares if they are in iraq or in america?

Creatures

[427Windsorman]

Originally posted by Creatures
what's the problem with that? let them live their lives! who cares if they are in Iraq or in America?

Creatures

The problem is that they are in the United States Military, and are subject to the UCMJ. They decided to disobey orders, and do as they pleased. That is a problem.
Discipline is vital in the military, especially during times of war. I do not expect most civilians to understand that, but that is the way it is. To allow otherwise invites disaster.
These Soldiers should be facing UCMJ action, at the very least.

[M_Six]

Disobedience aside, this was bound to happen. Every war has its "war brides".

[Bovon]

This is a forum of opinions...and I respect yours. (everybodys).

Some here may be missing the point. a soldier is taught from day 1 in boot camp to forget individualism and be one unit. Each man or woman absolutely must follow set guidelines, devised over generations of warfare to protect the whole. You live, eat, sleep, act and become one person in a whole group..this way, all stand a chance of survival. When a soldier acts on his/her own and becomes an individual again, he/she is placing many other lives at risk.

In Iraq, there are still men and women being killed by the millitant Iraqi's and others..the war is not really over, and the soldiers must protect one another.

Is it possible that some of the lives that have been lost in an ambush was because one or two guys had girlie on his mind?.

How does one GI fully trust his buddy, when his buddy has his manhood thinking for him?.

This is why the military has rules...without them, we have no organized armed forces...we have armed individuals, and THEY CAN BE DEFEATED.!

[Knothead]

W-e-l-l-l....I'll go out on a limb here...

Anybody who has ever been heart-rendingly, foolishly, and impossibly in love should understand this pretty easily...

Love doesn't follow the dictates of the brain, or training, discipline, allegiance, or anything else. Love comes from somewhere else, and it doesn't recognize any other imperative other than itself.

These guys aren't bad soldiers, they just got HIT!!

I mean, converting to Islam to be with their new sweeties? You gotta say, WOW!!

Cut 'em some slack, I say. I'm sure the U.S. Army can find a way where these guys can continue their duties... hampered, as it were, with such treasonous emotion!

[Bovon]

Crap!!...double post!

[Bovon]

Originally posted by Knothead

Cut 'em some slack, I say. I'm sure the U.S. Army can find a way where these guys can continue their duties... hampered, as it were, with such treasonous emotion!

I respect your opinion, but I also respectfully disagree.

This action by a couple of GIs is not about those two..it is about thousands of other GIs scrambling to do the same. If we have a law...say, you can't go and kill that guy that said something bad about you..but you go and kill him anyway. What now, do we just cut you some slack? what happens to the next guy who goes and kills somebody for the same reasons, do we cut them some slack also?..

I don't know how the law works where you live, but in most of America, the law is supposed to be the same for each individual..(this of course will bring on money issues about buying judges etc. I know).

All I am saying is, do things the right way, within the perimeters of the law and rules...sure, there has always been war brides..and there will be some this time..but there are also rules and guidelines to follow. Those two GIs in effect told the military to go screw themselves with their 'childish' rules.

BTW.. I am old enough to reflect on "young love" and understand most true love comes into a family long after the wedding. Many young men and women fall in and out of love as soon as the heat of the moment passes. Is this worth jeopardizing your buddies?..your unit?..your army?..your country?