Philosophical Question

[ClubMed]

Yesterday I was on a very nice trip through upper Austria with family, we were on this boat going to Krems, the nature and scenery were beautiful. I was on the top deck sitting in the sun when I started thinking about this idea (or question).

Can God create a being more powerful than itself?

Theoretically speaking:

• If yes, this would undermine Gods omnipotence.
• If no, this would set limits to Gods abilities.

Thoughts?

[tmx468]

Same as:

Can he create a stone he cannot lift....

IMO (AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!) There is no such being, and the bible is misconstrued, but was meant soley as some philosophers and their ideals on how we all should live... much as many books written now-a-days.

There are too many loopholes and double sided writings to be a devine 'handbook'. You cannot live by the bible, without going against the bible. Of course, it is all interpretation.... And I apologise to any religious members of this forum if my views upset them, but that is what faith is... individual beliefs.

[M_Six]

Yesterday I was on a very nice trip through upper Austria...

Ah, once again I envy you, CM.

[muno]

I would imagine someone would answer ->
'There are things mortals are not meant to understand'

I don't understand where would such a need rise for him to be able to create something like that.

My answer would be 'no, he cannot create something that's more powerful than him'. I'm a nonbeliever as you know, though.
-M

[Droppyale]

if he exists,

i dout he can create anything anymore.

Everything was already created....

the only thing left to do, is watch it's own destruction.

[OuTpaTienT]

I think, yes he could create a being more powerful, but no he wouldn't.

This is the only answer that leaves God's abilities in tact. otherwise...

Originally posted by ClubMed

• If yes, this would undermine Gods omnipotence.
• If no, this would set limits to Gods abilities.

[Creatures]

well why should he? wouldnt make sense

Creatures

[Knothead]

It would seem to me that this is missing the point of what a Supreme Being is about.

God don't need no omnipotence contests.

[wju425]

To answer that question why don't we ask his better half?

\o/ Billy

[originel]

oh yes...an age old question

homer: i have a question. could jesus microwave a burrito so hot that not even he himself could eat it?
flanders: well gee, thats a real melon tickler of a question there homer, and i don't know the answer. but luckily i have a book which does <holds up bible>.
homer: it's pretty long, could you read it to me?
ned: <glee on face> could i?!!



Here's a thought about those questions: it obviously plays on the omnipotence part of God. But in reality most people don't truly believe God is omnipotent, they only think they do. Assuming God is omnipotent, then EVERYTHING that happens ever in the world is EXACTLY what God wants to happen (including things like the holocaust and war in general). This also means that freewill is pretty much BS and predestination is a fact. Granted we might be the ones that actually make a decision, but God made us in such a way that he essentially programmed us to do exactly what we do. Afterall, if he can do anything then he could see exactly how the combination of all atoms and molecules would interact for all eternity. From a more specific standpoint God WANTED Adam and Eve to sin against him and he WANTED them to get thrown out of the garden, and for that matter he WANTS us to sin everytime we do.

Of course all of that is theoretically possible...but when you throw in a couple of other facts about God the picture doesn't become so clear, namely that God is wholly good (will never do anything evil) and that he is omniscient (not only does he know everything going on, he knows what is right, i.e. he doesn't make mistakes).

EDIT: my personal views are more like tmx468's views. i don't believe that the bible is word for word accurate, but really meant more to guide us and help us, not dictate how we should live or lives.