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Old 08-11-2003, 09:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My "FINAL" Solution for Email Spam

I've given up on trying to filter out all the spam in my email. The bogus names, spaces, jumbling, etc in the sender and subject lines has gotten ridiculous. There is no way to stay up on it. I'm even getting spam on an account that I have never used for anything (account is set up only for use of the web space provided by my ISP).

The other day I got 87 emails of which only 9 were legetimate!

While not perfect, this is my solution to make dumping it easier:

I've decided to work backwards. I'm setting filters for my "legitimate" emails and created a new folder for them to go to.

Today, it only took me 20 seconds to delete everything in my InBox. 36 messages All SPAM!!

Death (figuratively speaking, of course ) To Spammers!!!

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Old 08-11-2003, 10:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am totally with you, Bill.

I have one box that is just for web forms (I don't use it for anything else). The box gets over fifty spam e-mails per day. What happened to those privacy polocies?

Some people are getting so strung out over this that they are talking about using "hack back" and other attack technologies. Check out this guys latest article:

http://www.paulgraham.com/ffb.html

He is so bent over the amount of spam that he can't see straight anymore. And he is some sort of programming professional. What sort of schemes are the non tech savvy going to be thinking up?

BTW your solution is the one that I have had recommended to me several times. Had an article about setting the filters but can't find it right now. (May have lost the link...)
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Yep, it's becoming easier to filter only good emails.

Besides, why would I trust someone who can't even write an email subject right ?
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Old 08-11-2003, 06:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My email system is masterful. 3 separate accounts are for everything. My hotmail account is used for personal and business things. One pop account is dedicated to signing up for junk, for example, the online game Utopia requires an email address. Another pop account dedicated to mailing lists, news and forum - stuff I will get lots of but actualy plan on reading.

Categorizing is the key. I recieve 0 spam with my system
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I wound up getting a new account on Hotmail, as my old one was getting loaded with spam. Well, I used H&R Block's online filing, and used that email (the only person to get the email, as it was less than a day old)...and the next day I had 16 junk mails. Don't know if it was them or just coincidence...

Can't stand the crap myself. It needs to be outlawed. There is absolutely no reason for it to remain legal. It is not speech. Speech is expressing in public. Email's are not generally publically accessible (they're for YOU and only you).

But there's too much money in it...
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what is spam?
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Old 08-11-2003, 11:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If you and your friends all DOS the SMTP server that sent you a spam, it will go down. I won't tell you how though.

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While I understand the frustration, remember that 2 wrongs don't make a right. If they decide that they want to report you to your ISP for DOSing them, you are still in the wrong, no matter how noble the cause.

Do the right thing, use SamSpade, report the spamming to the abuse address for them, their ISP and the next tier up as well as your ISP.

If you think spam is frustrating, imagine it for huge companies that have to pay for the resources to process it, CPU time, disk space, bandwidth. They are literally spending millions a year dealing with it.
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If you DOS them in a smart way you won't be caught. You can either fake your IP or use IRC bots to DOS the SMTP for you. A guy I know has about 20 IRC bots, one of his friends has over 500. It's really easy to take down a server if you really want to.

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Shawn, it's still not right, even if you do it and don't get caught.

We are too easily lead into thinking, "If I don't get caught, it must be OK" these days. P2P, speeding whilst driving, it's all the same- IF IT IS ILLEGAL, IT'S ILLEGAL!

So, whilst I agree spam can be annoying, don't break the law just to get "even". Chances are, you will be DOSing the wrong server anyhow, and then how will you feel?

IMO, anyway.

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