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Old 07-28-2003, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Leaf shackle bushins

Yet another car question. I'm gonna turn this forum into a car forum son enough! (Thanks for all of your help so far) I went to a local mechanic and they got my hitch removed so I can replace the bumper. In doing so, they found a nail in one tire, which led to the patching and thus removal of the tire from the truck. Behind the tire, they found bad Leaf shackle bushings, which caused part of the suspension to lean into the main suspension springs on the driver side.

My question:

Upper/ lower leaf shackle bushings = $22 for all 4
Labor for installation of all 4= $167
Front wheel alignment= $50

Can this be done by a relative novice provided I have the time to mess around with this project and I have the Haynes and the Chilton manuals? I know I can't do the alignment myself, but do I really need one when I do this replacement?

The vehicle:
87 Jeep Cherokee (XJ) w/ 4.0L and 4x4 (31 x 10.50 -- 3" lift)

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Old 07-28-2003, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wish I could give you some intelligent advice, Dave, but I only clicked on this thread because the title tickled my funny bone, is all.
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Old 07-28-2003, 06:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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lol, yeah I was wondering what the title was about too
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Old 07-28-2003, 06:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes it can be done, but it can be nearly impossible.
If you are lucky, a hammer and screwdriver will be sufficient persuasion. You won't be that lucky.

You may ba able press them out successfully with a C-clamp and a couple of sockets. If you can take the springs fully off the vehicle, a bench vise also works.

If these fail, then burn them out with a torch. This is a smelly, nasty mess, but works almost every time. Adequate ventilation is a must -- and don't drip molten rubber on concrete you care about.

Some bushings are vulcanized to an outer metal sleeve which must be cut and pounded out.

When the bushings are out, use emery cloth to clean any left over rubber or metal fragments out of the spring eye.

If you are using polyurethane replacement bushings, be sure to grease them up with the manufacturer-provided grease or regular heavy bearing grease. You may need to use the C-clamp (or bench vise) and sockets to force the new bushings into the spring and frame eyes.

If you can replace the bushings without having to remove the springs, then you can get away with not getting the alignment. But once you remove the springs and axle, an alignment will be in order to make sure everything is straight.
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Old 07-28-2003, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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procedure...

http://www.cybrrpartspro.com/Chilton...07CH08_17.HTML

Labor is a touch high p'raps.. depends on how rusted together crap is. They may have made a judgement on that.

Doesn't seem too tough of a procedure... give youself the afternoon tho so if you break it you aren't SOL. You should be able to drive it somewhere for an alignment after the repair. $50 is fair for a 4 wheel alignment on a 4WD vehicle.

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Old 07-28-2003, 07:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Only one addition to AR's post...

...on 4WD's a front wheel alignment isn't enough, you should do a 4 wheel "thrust alignment" to prevent excess tire wear.

BTW - Nearly Impossible can be defined as removing siezed kingpins from a 1977 F100, in your driveway. It only took 6 hours to get both of them out
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The guys at the shop told me the wrong thing. First they said it was the control arms, then they said "4x4's don't have control arms". Then they said they were leaf springs. Looking at that picture above, that is not it either. The chilton's link here shows the part. It is the top picture. The part they are using the box wrench on is in the way of the main body spring.
http://www.cybrrpartspro.com/Chilton...107CH08_8.HTML

Any ideas? (Guess I won't go back to that mechanic either)
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If it's the stablizer bar bushings, they should be much easier to replace. In that case a alignment won't be needed.
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Was it in the front of the vehicle?
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes. Sorry. I'm showing my ignorance big time on this one. I guess I should have known that the leaf springs were in the back. This is in the front.
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