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Old 12-19-2001, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Universal announces copy protected CD's for the US market

http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/ne...t/cd121701.htm


I believe the correct terminology is "defective".

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Old 12-19-2001, 12:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As stated in the article, they tried that here in Europe, but 90% of the CD's would not play in CD players, so they had to take them off the market.

They basically shot themselves in the foot by being too hasty and greedy.

Lets hope that's the case again.
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Old 12-19-2001, 01:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 12-19-2001, 01:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I can't wait till these things come out here at wal-mart. hehehe
i'll go and get a cd player that those things won't play on and return the cd. but, wait, wal-mart won't let you return cd's! ohhhhh, then i get to raise holy hell. hehhe, yeah, i'm looking for trouble........
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Old 12-19-2001, 01:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just as soon as this "copy-protection" suite is in effect on all CDs, the warez software to bypass it will become available. What these record execs forget is that they are dealing w/ some of the brightest people in the world.

Should they go through with it? Yes, they should. They have the right to. Artists have the right to their intellectual property. However, we all know this will only stop typical Joe Consumer who can barely drive a web browser. And I think this will be ok with the execs, because the techinically savvy are few and far between.....the record companies will still see their profits.
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Old 12-19-2001, 01:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The world's largest record company will be the first of the major labels to release a copy-protected CD in the United States, signaling a new chapter in the industry's efforts to stem music piracy
Hmmm...should read:

The world's largest record company will be the first of the major labels to release a copy-protected CD in the United States, signaling a new challenge to heretofore unthwarted computer hackers.

Remember how long it took us geeks to defeat the last "copy-protection-to-end-all-copy protection" schemes?

There'll be a crack for this before the scheme even gets widespread release in the USA.

Nothing motivates crackers like a new decryption challenge
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Old 12-19-2001, 01:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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it won't sell. i don't think people will buy things that they can't gurantee will play anywhere.

besides, the industry is starting too late. at this point, the only way to stop it from happening would be to prohibit people from having cd buners and computers. it's too easy!
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Old 12-19-2001, 02:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The only sure fire way to prevent anyone from copying other peoples work is to shut down the internet.I don't see that happening anytime soon though.Mark my words though.In twenty years we will not be enjoying the freedoms we have now online.We are slowly and surely giving these rights away.I see the day when the only way you'll be able to get online is by having some sort of scanning device scan you and then you'll be logged on.Every step of the way they will know what your doing.
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Old 12-19-2001, 03:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What about recording it through line input or playback recording? Heck alot of songs hit Napster b4 release simply because the radio played them and someone had their computer setup to record radio input to MP3. It's things like this that make consumers try and find cheaper ways of obtaining music..

ALot of today's music lacks artistic quality and most CD's now days are an album of 1 hit and 14 other "filler" tracks... I still buy CD's but it's usually the older rock and alternative albums I listened to back in the day. I don't believe anyone wants to go buy a $15-$20 CD in order to listen to ONE song and I don't believe that anyone should be forced to do so.. I believe that the industry needs to stop worryin about profits and think of it's consumer.

It's like buying a $5-6 box of cereal that tastes like dog poo only to get the $0.25 toy at the bottom. You must also take into consideration that CD's do wear and tear after long periods of usage I can't count all the times I've bought Green Day ablums since I was 12 simply because they got scratched to death over time and rebuyin them got old considering 5 CD's = $100 whew.. I would be much happier being able to buy just the song/s I liked and have the ability to back them up. One of the reason's I don't feel like I'm pirating music is tha fact that alot of the CD's I have own or owned and they got to the point where they would not play due to scratched, wear and tear, or just plain old "Playing rings" and I feel that I have already bought the right to listen to these songs once or twice in my life and I'm not doing it anymore.

1 CD with 1 great song and 14 tracks of filler = $16.95

1 CDR with the capability to hold all my favorite songs = $0.25

Maybe the recording industry should take some time in revising the amount of money they expect their consumers to pay. If CD's only cost $10 I would probably buy them alot more than burning them just to have the real deal an if they were less than that then my burner would be used to backup data and burn the occasional mix CD. Believe me I've seen CRIBS on MTV and I don't think 1 mil less a year is gonna hurt any artist out there that hasn't already made it.

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Old 12-19-2001, 03:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yeah, that's one way of doing it. i mean there are so many ways that a motivated person would be able to work around the issue. i think if the music industry is scared about sales, they should lower prices and promote more than three cds they think 14 year olds will listen to. if all cds sold for 10 or 11 bucks, more people would buy them.
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