Teacher Unions Promote a Political Agenda

[daveleau]

Do we really want schools teaching our children what is right in politics? The best teacher of this is the parent, no matter whose side you're on.

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=12443

In California, teacher unions are close to winning passage of a bill that would allow them and other school employee unions to use public schools for political propagandizing directed at teachers and other school personnel.

[Theophylact]

You mean "union organizing", don't you?

[Chuckiechan]

This is part of the bill package aimed at Gov Davis who will sign anything that represents anyone who may vote to save his ass.

Also, heading his way is a bill to give illegal immigrants driver licenses. Supporters feel they will give thier correct addresses and will buy insurance like the rest of us.

He also hinting that he may try to dilute the voter required "English Immersion" education. That is a law passed by the voters that required education in English first, the goal being to become fluent in English. Many Hispanic politicians are against it as they feel it weakens ties to Mexico, and want bi-lingual education to return. Educationally, "English Immersion" has been a resounding success story for Hispanics. Their test scores have never been higher, and their success in the work force (and college) has never been better. But votes are what the Governor needs, and the Mexican lobby promises to deliver.

[sharder8]

Originally posted by Theophylact
You mean "union organizing", don't you?

Heck no Theo!!!!

The teachers are HEAVILY unionized already!!!! They are also predominately Liberal (Democrat), as noted previously!

I agree with Dave on this one, politics should be taught by parents and not teachers! Same with respect, pride, etc.

Harder

I second that motion.

[MTAtech]

It is ironic that the site that is mentioned uses the term "propaganda" when the site itself peddles its own propaganda as news. The bill does NOT say "...to use public schools for political propagandizing directed at teachers and other school personnel..." daveleau, the bill has nothing to do with teaching children political views. That's a complete distortion of the facts.

This is the actual bill:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/a...ended_sen.html

"This bill would provide that the prohibitions relating to the support or defeat of any ballot measure or candidate do not apply to an employee organization that exercises its right to use institutional bulletin boards, mailboxes, and other means of communication if the posting of written material urging the support or defeat of any ballot measure or candidate in a location that is not open and accessible to the general public."

In other words, the bill would allow teachers to post political materials on the bulletin board in the teacher's workroom - not in the class or halls. It also requires that the school be re-imbursed for any costs.

This doesn't sound like something one should get bent out of shape about. But it does give a new look at how websites put their own spin on the facts. Don't believe every piece of BS you read on a website. Think critically and do your own research.

[daveleau]

By definition, all political talk and writing is propoganda no matter who is doing it.

[MTAtech]

propaganda
SYLLABICATION: prop·a·gan·da

NOUN: 1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

By definition, a news source shouldn't be advocating doctrine or a cause.

[daveleau]

I agree. They shouldn't. They all do, though. Any stance for one side or the other is propoganda.

[Omardeth]

after reading the bill what seems to be the problem ?