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Old 07-10-2003, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ACLU helps pedophile (3x loser) access children's parks

http://www.aim.org/publications/gues...003/jul10.html

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Most people who went to law school will remember learning about the tremendous deference given to children by the courts. Law students are taught that in just about any criminal situation involving victims who are children, the law leans heavily in favor of the children’s well being and woe to the people who sought their harm. At least that is how it used to be, but not so anymore, at least not according to the appellate court in Indiana.

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Old 07-10-2003, 04:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Now I normally support the ACLU but not this time. Although if the man didn't have any strikes against him and was daydreaming (Not a very good thing to be day dreaming) I don't know if that'd bother me as much.
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Old 07-10-2003, 05:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The guy who wrote that article is a moron.
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Old 07-10-2003, 05:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So tell me, daveleau: where would you allow him to walk?
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Old 07-10-2003, 07:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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-edit-Obviousy I missed the part about 3 times molester

The guy never acted anything out, but he did pose a risk (even if it is a small risk, children are involved). I think the man should have had counselling (it sounds like he should have saught it out himself, and did with the sex-offenders anonymous group) and phyciatric therapy until he was either deemed fit or unfit. Howver, I can't make more of a judgement than that, since the article only really said that "John Doe is a pedophile, but not an active one; he goes to a group to seek help, the group double-crosses him and reports him to the cops; he gets a restrining order; and really didn't say much else about the situation. There are alot of ifs here (did he retreive treatment?, did he seek out help besides the group?, did the group backstab him or was he on the verge of committing an act?

No offense Dave, as I detest people who even think of harming kids! (which this guy did and I probably would punch him in the face if I saw him regardless of the law) But he never did anything more than daydream it sounds like, and the law doesn't say anything about that (be kinda hard to enforce, eh?). But in a case like this, the man should definately receive help of some kind, to help him get over his lewd 'fantasies'.

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Old 07-10-2003, 07:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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During the sessions he confessed to going to a park in Lafayette, Indiana to fantasize about having sex with some of the little children there. Sometimes the urge to act on the thoughts became so strong, he had to leave the park and, according to a report in the Washington Times on July 3, 2003, he became “upset with himself.” It seems even his fellow pedophiles saw the writing on the wall and “members of a Sex-Offenders Anonymous group betrayed Doe to the police after Doe's admission that he was ‘cruising’ when he visited Columbian Park and Murdock Park.”
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The dissenting opinion was written by a Reagan appointee, Kenneth F. Ripple, who correctly pointed out that the matter was not just about thought. The pedophile physically placed himself in a park with children to better enable himself to act on his fantasies saying, “He went to not one but two parks in search of children at play in order to achieve sexual gratification ... and consequently became sexually aroused. In short, he engaged not only in thought but in activity directed toward an illegal and very harmful end.
I surely hope YOUR child wasn't the one this *&%@#* was fantasizing about Theo Cause if he was "daydreaming" about abusing MY child after have been convicted not just once but multiple times and then OPENLY admitted that he was thinking of doing it again...... he had best not meet up with me or my wife!
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Old 07-10-2003, 07:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well I don't know Mntsnow. He apparently left the park which was a good thing.

We have the local town park across the street. How would be able to tell if one of them was a "sexual predator" anyway? All he'd have to do is simply sit down under a tree and if anyone asks all they have to do is say "I am just enjoying the shade on a wonderful day" and no one has the right to expect anything different from what he said.
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Sorry but I feel this *$(*# should have been locked up and the key thrown away......
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Oh I am not trying to argue with your decision. Just want it to be aware that people do change, and I feel that he should just go back to therapy and get the help he needs.

As long as he stops having fantasies about children, I don't really see a problem with him.
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Old 07-10-2003, 07:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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