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07-01-2003, 09:25 AM
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US plans hypersonic bomber
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3035332.stm Quote: |
"The United States will be able, using aircraft based on its own territory, to strike at individual targets without warning and without the need for foreign bases. "
| I personally am against building nuclear wepons (NK) etc...
but when you read something like this, it makes you wonder...
why does the US need to have all this wepons technology and all?
aren't they looking for peace?
isn't that the whole point?
Clearly the US is rubbing this on every country's face.
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07-01-2003, 09:57 AM
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off topic I am afraid but
Ha ha to who ever said I was wrong
"A turbo-ramjet was used in the USAF's SR-71 "Blackbird" spy plane to take it up to Mach 3.3 and an altitude of 85,000 feet (26,000 metres). "
The blackbird does use ramjets dag nab it. nan nan na na poo poo!!!
On topic though SR71 had a many considerations and allowances just to deal with the friction and heat of mach 3.3 flight. I wonder weather those concerns and methods are good enough to deal with the mach 7 increase in speed.
Now really on topic. We are the world police and if we are to serve and protect I see nothing wrong with being able to reduce costs by eliminating the requirements for overseas bases and such. Peace through strength and staying ahead of the competition is always good until universal peace can be achieved.
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07-01-2003, 01:17 PM
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We've been working on something like that since the late triassic era. It's called the Aurora project, and I assume this might be what they are refering too.
The military aspects are talked about, but I see many civilian potentials for such a plane. It's not really a plane at all tho, more of a space ship.
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07-01-2003, 01:53 PM
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Oh well, it's a neat concept at any rate. Still, this will obviously raise international concern, especially amoung the french.
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07-01-2003, 02:19 PM
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Does this mean that the USA will no longer need Israel as their base in the Middle East, and therefore will no longer feed them with arms and cash then i wonder ?
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07-01-2003, 03:01 PM
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US base in Israel? That's a new one. Never heard that. Is that why we needed Turkey, SA, Kuwait and Bahrain to stage out of for DS and OIF? 
This could be a quick strike weapon that could degrade defenses before the big guys get there. 12,000 pounds isn't a big payload, but it will still take out a few SAM targets and other military centers. The US is looking more and more into unmanned vehicles. They can fly faster and turn more quickly when they do not have to worry about g-forces ont he human body. Jets can handle much higher than 9 Gs, while the human body can not.
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07-01-2003, 03:39 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by daveleau
US base in Israel? That's a new one. Never heard that. Is that why we needed Turkey, SA, Kuwait and Bahrain to stage out of for DS and OIF?
This could be a quick strike weapon that could degrade defenses before the big guys get there. 12,000 pounds isn't a big payload, but it will still take out a few SAM targets and other military centers. The US is looking more and more into unmanned vehicles. They can fly faster and turn more quickly when they do not have to worry about g-forces ont he human body. Jets can handle much higher than 9 Gs, while the human body can not. | My thoughts exactly, that question was purely toungue in cheek its just that some one not a million miles away, used that reason as an excuse for all the the cash and arms that are given to Israel.
May i say that you put my point better than i could have.
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07-01-2003, 04:27 PM
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Now it takes a couple of days to stage an air strike, a couple of weeks to get a carrier on station, and a couple of months to get enough guys in place to do some good. 12,000 pounds on the target today might be lots better than 12,000 tons three months from now when the bad guys have had plenty of time to go to ground. Unmanned is good too - we don't mind spending money but we don't like to lose people. No shot down pilots paraded on CNN, no widows or parents for the news vultures to interview, no nightly stories on how we've lost another service person.
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07-01-2003, 05:10 PM
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Ha ha to who ever said I was wrong
"A turbo-ramjet was used in the USAF's SR-71 "Blackbird" spy plane to take it up to Mach 3.3 and an altitude of 85,000 feet (26,000 metres).
| Nope, they used the SR-71 as a testbed for these types of ramjets (maybe scramjet would be more accurate?).
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07-02-2003, 02:42 AM
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12000lbs is a heck of a lot for a kinetic weapon coming down from orbit.
ever seen a meteor crater? | |
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