Need some advice

[Mike]

The other day one of my friends got into something like a scuffle. We will call my friend "J" just for this story. His littler brother and some friends were being bullied by this kid that was couple years older. Well this bully is in the same grade as J and I (Juniors..) One day this goofball decided to follow my J's bro and some other kids back to J's house.

We arrived at the house about 10 minutes after they did, we got out of the car and this little b**** had a kid almost a half foot shorter and 65 lbs lighter in a headlock.

J got really mad at seeing his bro get bullied and beaten up, so he went over and started yelling at this jerk. The kid pushed him around a bit and J knows Ninjitsu- he gave him a shot to the ribs, not very hard but hard enough to knock the wind outta him and break a rib.

He's not worried at all about any kind of retaliation because this jerk has no friends and isn't very tough, he just feels bad because he knows that he could have just taken the kid down in a choke hold and let him go but instead he took a more direct method and gave him a "body-blow"
I have no idea what to tell my friend to calm him down, he seems upset about it.

Any advice for me to give him?
I realize that the storyline is kind of hard to follow.

[CERuppel]

Hey Mike

if your friend is seriously having problems with this situation then he should really look for help. I mean that HE should look for the help. Be there for yuor freind, and maybe steer him toward someone that HE respects (his martial arts teachers, parents, or such) for someone to un-load on. Sort of a confessional for the nerves.

By the way... Been in his shoes.. Decked the school bully once...

Not a good feeling

[ClubMed]

You know what? Tell him he did the right thing. Defending your loved ones and friends is not a crime, nor is it something to be ashamed of, its unfortunate, but some people only learn the hard way.

[Ace McGirk]

I'm with Club_med on this one,If people don't stand up and protect themselves,it will just keep happening.Bullies are only bullies until someone stands up to them.

[Mike]

Thanks for the input guys! This bully has steered clear of everyone that he has picked on. lol

[Dudster]

Yeah I agree (especially as he was bullying a kid several years younger). If this lad wants to bully, he should be prepared to get hurt. Next time (if there is one) he might not be so lucky as to get off lightly in some people's eyes. Your mate J might actually have done him a favour. Maybe he's "cured" now

Edit: just thought I'd point out that I don't approve of breaking 16year-old's ribs (I'm assuming it was accidental) but have no problems with knocking the wind out him. I think for any future situations like this, the best thing is to get a grip of them and maybe a few slaps, it's also scaryer than a headlock (not punches, you risk causing a bad injury like a broken jaw (or worse) and possibly arrested) and the main thing is to scare them and warn them from doing it again.

[Warthog]

I would've done the same thing.

Kinda funny.....today I basically had a similar experience regarding To Punch or Not To Punch. There's this girl (an "aquaintance" of mine I suppose) in my art class. Today a loser guy came in, little short dude but 1 grade older than me (ask how that's possible when I'm a Senior................) he said some nasty words to her. I wasn't within ear shot....witnessed it though. I went over to her because I was sitting at her table.....she was crying......holy sheet don't ever let me see a guy be mean to a woman and maker her cry.....*blood boils*.....I asked her what happened......I don't really know the whole story, to sum it up her and this jerk and this other girl who is friends with the jerk were having words. For the past couple weeks she's been harrassed by them.......I had to get tissues.......*anger level increasing*......when I'm pissed I have a totally serious look on my face. This is not some whussy girl, she's confident and everything, very nice girl. I told her it was just a bunch of immature high school crap.....she agreed exstatically (sp?).

Anyhew, I thought of having words with him but since I really didn't witness the entire situation, I didn't.......if that dumb@$$ shows up again tomorrow, I'm gonna "start something" by asking him to say sorry to her.....of course he won't.....I know that level headedness is key in a fight (more like scuffle). haha what's funny is that my best friend beat up this kid many years ago when we were in 8th grade..........See? When I'm fired up, I talk/write a lot.

Guess it's not the same exact situation......I wouldn't hesitate for a microsecond to defend my family.

Tell him good job.

Warthog

[charmler]

Wart, you must be fired up all the time, judging from your verbose contributions to this and 'other' forums. hehe

I had a rough childhood. I eventually learned to fight like a madman, and even enjoyed it. I got beat up way more times than I beat people up. However, I liked to fight and would look for any opertunity to trade some blood. I have had broken bones and I have broke some bones. Without going into detail, I will encourage your friend to see the RIGHTness of his actions. If you ever have a doubt as to whether your actions are desired, ask the victim if they are glad you stood up for them. Like Wart, I have NEVER walked away from a woman in need of help. Sometimes though, you may end up in the middle of a domestic dispute and have both people whacking on you. I was also a fast runner. I learned early to let the other guy throw the first punch. You don't have to let him hit you, just let him swing. Then you can determine the adequate amount of correction to use against him.
Two things, one is to watch your back if you end up getting in a lot of fights. The losers may push you in front of a school bus and cause a bit of pain. The other thing is the police. They may find you involved in several fisticuffs and decide that you are a brawler. If this happens to you, you will be seeing a judge. Most judges don't want to see you at all let alone twice a month. That is just what I have been told.

[cadetstimp]

Don't worry ...he won't be a bully as soon as all the kids he's pickin on go through their growth spurt. It all changes after 6th grade.