I'm TIRED of those HIGH paid teachers!!!!

[vass0922]

I, for one, am sick and tired of those high paid teachers. Their hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year!

It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do...baby-sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right......I would give them $3.00 dollars an hour and only the hours they worked, not any of that silly planning time. That would be 15 dollars a day.

Each parent should pay 15 dollars a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children!

Now, how many do they teach in a day....maybe 25. Then
that's 15 X 25=$375 a day. But remember they only work 180 days a year!

I'm not going to pay them for any vacations. Let's see.. *that's 375x180= $67,500.00 (Hold on, my calculator must need batteries!)

What about those special teachers or the ones with masters degrees?

Well, we could pay them minimum wage just to be fair. Let's round it off to $6.00 an hour. That would be $6 times 5 hours times 25 children times180 days =$135,000.00 per year.

Wait a minute, there is something wrong here!!!

There sure is, huh????!!!!!!!!!!!!

No didn't write it, g/f is a teacher and she read it from somewhere

[M_Six]

Sounds fair to me. I would add that we should give them cattle prods and full license to use them, too.

[kenyg]

54% of our teachers make the district maximum $84,000 - and it is projected to be about 70% in 4 years.

they're currently threatening to strike this fall if the board doesn't approve 30% increase over the next 4yrs (first year increase of 9.5%).

Nothing against teachers in general - but I'm ready to fire the whole lot of them here.

[NeoStarO1]

84,000 a year? teachers don't make near that amount. its more closer to the under 30k a year.


Edit: I decided to look up our teachers salaries figures for oregon.
here is linkage. tad more than 30k a year but not by much. they get paid crappy.

http://www.osba.org/lrelatns/salary/average.htm

[vass0922]

where did you get those stats kenyg?! I"ve never heard of HS/Elementary teachers make anywhere NEAR that much... not even with 30 years experience.

[originel]

yeah SERIOUSLY kenyg. both of my parents are teachers. my dad teaches ms band and my mom teaches ms choir. so band and choir teachers get paid more than regular teachers because of the extra ouside time the spend (my parents actually work around 50-80 hours a week, depending on how close they are to their next concert). with that in mind my dad gets paid...*drumrol*...$48,000, and that's with over 20 years experience and a master's degree from UNT in music (which is a very good school for music). my mom, who has a masters, but not from as good of a school, makes $39,000 a year.

both of my parents work in "rich" school districts, and they are some of the highest paid teachers at their respective schools, and yet neither of them makes over $50k a year.

[Chuckiechan]

Here in Californistan, a beginning teacher makes about $ 32,000 per year. Many in administration make $ 80,000 for helping California remain at the bottom of the educational heap.

A teacher's year is 181 (8 hour) days. They can always pick up a class or two during the summer, or get another part time job.

If they teach at a private school they are blackballed by the union and are toast.

The teacher's union is scared to death of school vouchers since California's schools are doing so poorly.

It's not the wages, it's the inability of the school districts to control unruly students for fear of being sued by someone. You don't have these problems in private schools, you (with parent's permission) do not spare the rod! If that dosen't work, you can expell them into public school.

If you have a school system that allows a child to scream in your face - FU - and get away with it, your system is broken.

[muno]

Not many of the finnish teacters do 8hour days, morelike 4hours/day or so. Of course there's some work to do after that, like fixing tests and whatever, but not much longer in school.

The school system is pretty much broken here too, the students can do whatever they please, because the teachers are not allowed to touch, discipline or say anything bad to them. The only tool they're given is 'motivate student to stop/do <something>'.

How do you motivate a teenager to not smoke in school property? With authrority, sure, but not everyone respects authority.

The salary is quite low, comparing to the stressfulness of the work, ~20kE/year. (my wife, who teaches chemistry makes 20E/h.
(for comparison, I make little over 10E/h, and I work fulltime)
-M

[Mike]

I have noticed teachers in this state (in my district at least) have been just a tad bit lazy.
I never showed up more then 10 minutes early, and have shown up before my teachers.

We had one teacher that on certain days after school beat us out the door.

[kenyg]

Press releases

couple paragraphs down in the Mar. 19th release -

"We already have a salary structure with an eighty-five ($85,000) thousand dollar maximum salary that we are projecting fifty-four (54%) percent of our teaching staff will reach over the next four
years. With seventy-four (74%) percent of our budget dollars consumed by salary and benefit costs, the District must stand firm on its salary offer and must change the health plan offered in order to minimize the impact to the district budget.”


This is what our teachers want -

"A four-year contract with salary increases of 9.57 percent in the first year, and 7.3, 7.11 and 6.98 percent in the following years."

"No changes to the current health insurance plan, but a proposal to review and consider the Pennsylvania Public School Health Care Trust Plan, if and when it is implemented."

this is what is being offered by the board -
· A four-year contract with salary increases of 3.92 percent in the first year, and 3.62, 3.37 and 3.17 percent in the following years. These percentage increases account for a flat yearly increase, step movement and projected course movement.

· Co-pay increases that are consistent with medical plan cost increases. For example, if Personal Choice rates increase by 17 percent as projected for next year, employee co-pays will increase by 17 percent to 11.7 percent. The Board is also proposing the Personal Choice 10/20/70 plan, and a prescription co-pay increase from $5/$10 to $10/$20. In addition, staff
hired after July 1, 2003, will be enrolled in Aetna’s Open Access plan. After one year of employment, staff may opt out of the Open Access plan and switch to Personal Choice. Applicable co-pays would remain throughout.

Now they're meeting with a state mediator. they havn't budged on either side since December.