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Old 06-04-2003, 10:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors Unwanted houseguest expulsion???

OK, here is the situation.

My best friend's parents took pity on one of their teenage daughter's friends who was being kicked out of his parent's house. After a few empasssioned speeches on how he only needs a place to sleep at night because hes going to be out looking for a full-time job, won't be a bother, intends to work as much as possible, ect, they agreed (verbally) to let him stay for a month. Part of this verbal agreement was that he gets a full-time job and started making enough money to get an apartment of his own. He currently works 15 hours a week at UPS - graveyard shift.


(Five days elapse)

Turns out that we/they've been had. The kid is a slug. He hasn't been to work in 3 days because his car broke down, a fact that he didn't bother mentioning to anyone (until I inquired as to what he was doing). He has gotten into numerous disagreements with the family, been demanding of things like clean hand towels, food, ect. His creepy friends have come over and played Dungeons and Dragons plus some new game called Vampire, (during which we discovered that the reason he can't get more hours at UPS was that he thinks he might actually be a vampire, and subsequently only works at night)

Also, he mentioned to my friends mom that he is "trying to figure out the best way to desensitize Moe (the daughter)." Isn't that the kind of thing that Charles Manson did?

My question I pose to the forum is, how best would you get rid of this kid, without endangering the safety of the family? We are gonna evict him this afternoon, so any hints would be GREAT!

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Old 06-04-2003, 10:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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All I'm going to say is that calling his friends creepy because they play DnD and V:TM is pretty seedy.

If the kid is as 'evil' as you make him out to be, then they need to be careful.

More likely he's just anti-social and has a hard time adapting. Also classic challenging of authority here.

Probably won't go down easy. Someone's feelings are going to be hurt. If not his, then hers.

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Old 06-04-2003, 10:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not calling them creepy simply because they placy D&D and Vampire - I know plenty of people who play it and are perfectly normal human beings

These kids are all in their 18-20's and play for 6-7 hours per day, 5-6 days a week. They live eat and breath the stuff, and frankly, if you do ANYTHING that much (except maybe sleeping) you have a problem.

Doesnt help much that none of them bath more than about once ever 3 days!!! They ought to be getting their "Irish Sprang" on rather than getting their game on!


I know this whole tale reads mighty sordid but I swear on a stack of bibles its true.
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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YEEESH! The guy sounds like a sociopath...says whatever it takes to get what he wants, doesn't bother to consider that you guys will wise up, etc. If he is this type of personality, be advised that he prolly relates to people as though they are a TV show that he's watching, that he sometimes interacts with.

Thus, he won't take anything you say seriously, so what you do is calmly (and without listing your grievances--he's not interested) tell him he has to leave. When he brings up the earlier agreement, you simply say, "We changed our minds. You have to leave now." Over and over.

And don't take anything he says seriously, either. Good luck!
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If he's got all these friends, surely one of them can put up with him, er, I mean put him up.

I don't know, gamers like that aren't usually sociopaths. They're playing to escape reality, not be psychotic in it.

The desensitizing comment is a bit odd. The kid probably does want to believe he's a vampire. Gives him an excuse to feel special.

But really, it doesn't sound like there's anything serious to worry about. As soon as he finds a new place, he'll be too preoccupied with his 'hobbies' probably.

Where are HIS parents in all this anyway?
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Honestly? No one really knows. He's part Asian and according to the story that he fed us, his father is really old school, out-by-the-time-your-18 type. I don't know if I fully buy that or not.

Knothead - Currently, that is the plan. Give-no-quarter, get out of the house NOW.

Its kind of funny - my friends mom wanted to give him till Saturday to move out... I said no way, thats a BAD idea. The only person that it benefits is him.
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Whir

I don't know, gamers like that aren't usually sociopaths. They're playing to escape reality, not be psychotic in it.
Sorry, I didn't mean to infer that gamers = sociopaths!

I was responding to the other stuff.
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hahah, Knot, I hadn't even read your post when I posted my post. I was distracted and it took me like ten minutes to finish it. Just a really odd coincidence that we both said sociopath.
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Agreed skybolt, if you give him 'till saturday that will give him plenty of time to move a few more items than he moved in with out of spite for the family that took him in the.. "That will teach them to mess with me" bit
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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'look, things just arn't working out - you can stay until Sat. , but then you've got to stay somewhere else - sorry'

just that - no tempers or fights - just we tried - but its not working.

if he complains, just frankly say, look, we're not ur family - we tried - sorry
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