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Old 05-30-2003, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jeep question...

How good are Jeep Cherokees? I was interested in getting a CJ or Wrangler until I saw the prices. I have about 3K saved up and my Sable went belly up before my move (tranny died on the way home (literally) from getting $400 worth of brakes put on ) I can get a CJ without engine or transmission for this Cherokees, on the other hand, are much less expensive and are 4wd.

Autotrader has these listings: http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/r...used&x=46&y=13

How are Cherokees in the reliability area? If I get a 6cyl, 5 speed with around 130k miles on it, is it likely to be on its last legs? What are typical problems with these, if any?

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Old 05-30-2003, 11:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I herd the Cherokees break down as much as jags do but the wranglers are very good.
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Old 05-31-2003, 03:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Dave, my friend, Jeeps... Are the One true 4x4.

I don't quite get what you're saying by "I can get a CJ without engine or transmission for this Cherokees, on the other hand, are much less expensive and are 4wd." Are you saying you can get a CJ7 without and engine and transmission for the same price as a XJ (Cherokee)? I find that hard to believe, so that's why I'm confused.

Also, I am almost positive that there were never any non 4x4 CJs made, except for the mail trucks. SOME XJs are two wheel only, but those are like the dirt cheap models. A little clarification here would help me out a bit.

On to your questions. " How are Cherokees in the reliability area? If I get a 6cyl, 5 speed with around 130k miles on it, is it likely to be on its last legs? What are typical problems with these, if any?"

This will depend on what year XJ you get. All XJs, to my knowledge, are fuel injected inline six motors. I don't recall off hand if the earlier models had the 258, or the 4.0 in them. I want to say that they're all 4.0 because they switched from the 258 to the 4.0 in the Wranglers somewhere around 94. Either motor is good for about 300K miles with regular oil changes. I'm not joking. Those motors are insanely rock solid torque monsters (well, as monster as you can get out of a 4.0 or 4.2).

As for the five speed? Who cares? There aren't very many moving parts in a manual. Clutch cylinder and the plate, that's about it. Sometimes the throw-out bearing will wear out before the clutch plate, but not very often. If the clutch plate hasn't been replaced at 130K, I'd be pretty impressed.

Things you will want to check at that milage: All front end parts. Brake calipers, u-joints on the axle, u-joints on the drive shafts, ball joints, steering arm, tie-rod ends, etc. Also, most of those are vacuum actuated 4x4. The front axles are always turning, but there's a collar that disconnects something inside the front differential I think, and the vacuum to the collar goes bad a lot, especially if it's not used. Some might be electronicly actuated, I'm not sure on that.

Bizkit is partially right. The automatic XJs have a fair number of problems with the trannies going out, and the xfer case is kind of weak so they like to die a lot if you're doing stupid things with them (like off-roading a lot, or pulling people out backwards, etc). For normal driving, you hardly ever hear of a burned xfer case. The trannies are weird though and often die. Again, if you're getting a manual, this isn't an issue.

Wranglers are rock solid nowdays, even with an automatic, but if you're looking at an XJ, I assume you want the cargo space. CJ, YJ, TJs are a little short on that.

Good luck in your hunting. Once you go Jeep, you never go back.
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Once you go Jeep, you never go back.
I don't know if that is true, Chevy guy that I am. But I would pay particular attention to the driveline, as mentioned. U-joints, brake linings and discs/drums all are good indicators. You will likely see new oil in the engine, and trans., so pay attention to the sounds of it. When there is a problem, people seem to change fluids, then sell.

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Edit: That does not sound right.

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Hi Daveleau. Just a tip here FYI... Louisiana has some REAL strange laws. (We are the only state under Napoleonic Law!) When you go to the LA dept. of Motor Vehicles to get ur driver's license, you may find out that it can cost you alot more $$$$$$ if you are titling a car from out of state. If you buy it here, it won't cost as much. Call the DMV before buying a vehicle from TX or AR so you are not suprised. You don't want to get into that web of red tape that is waiting for you!!!!

Good Luck on your new car.....
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One way I always see how "good" a model of a vehicle is, is by seeing how many old ones are there still running around.

And yeah..there sure are a lot of old Jeep Cherokees out there.
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Thanks for the input guys.

I didn't know all CJ's were 4wd. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "XJ". Is that the designation for a Cherokee? So, I should look for one that has the 4.0L? I may be looking at some pre-'95 models. I am not sure yet.

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Old 05-31-2003, 08:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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From my experiance, Jeeps are very reliable. I have an old '74 Jeep Wagoneer that my wife and I call the "Energizer Bunny". It just keeps going and going. The thing looks like a junk yard refugee, (mutiple dents, rusting paint, bent up bumpers, interior is shot) it's been through hell and back, but it runs great.
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Older jeeps.... the original style jeeps are hard to kill...

Newer '80+ jeeps are terrible...

I have also seen reviews that back this up...

I wouldn't own one....
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I work at a Jeep dealership and as can be expected we see some strange problems from time to time. IMO the whole Jeep line is very solid. I disagree with whoever stated there are problems with the automatic transmissions in the Cherokee. They have an "Aisin" transmission which has been very reliable. As stated before the 4.0 has been very durable. I believe it came out in 1987 and had mutiport injection from the start. The earlier Cherokees came with either a 2.5 4 cyl or a 2.8 Chevy engine(stay clear of the 2.8).

I would try to find one new enough that it does not have Renault electronics. I'm not sure what year that started, but I have a 1988 Comanche and a 1990 Wrangler that both have Renault electronics.

XJ= Cherokee
ZJ= Grand Cherokee 93-98
YJ= Wrangler 87-96?
TJ= Wrangler 97-current
WJ= Grand Cherokee 99-current
KJ= Liberty(replaces Cherokee)

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