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05-13-2003, 10:16 AM
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Should school be able to expell students?
Students, from Glenbrook Hight School, that particpated in the hazing inicident are to be expelled.
Do you think the school has the legal right to expell the students for a incident that occured off school propety and was not a school function?
Is the school trying to do damage control?
Is this a issue for the legal system not the school system?
"Under national scrutiny after a violent off-campus hazing incident, Glenbrook North High School officials on Monday suspended some senior girls for 10 days and announced they want to expel those involved in the brawl."
"The high school's investigation found that the girls broke assault and battery laws, Riggle said. They also violated the school's hazing policy and sections of the Illinois School Code regarding activities of non-sanctioned student groups."
Quotes from Chicago Tribune.
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05-13-2003, 10:38 AM
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Yes, they do have the right. Why, because they said it was a hazing incident.
If it was a brawl then no they have no right.
What I find funny is that one of the girls doing the hazing hired a lawyer shortly after the incident so she would not get suspended or expelled.
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05-13-2003, 10:38 AM
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That's a touchy subject. It depends what they were doing normally.
When I lived in Michigan 7 students decided it'd be fun to go around throwing oranges, bottles of urine, other frozen fruit at the random bystandered. (They NEVER got in trouble until they got a postal worker, they were arrested next day... Go figure right?)
The school ended up being leniant on them since everything they did was off campus. (Although the police tried to pin it on them that they planned these "events" on school property.) Also since they were to serve in prison boot camp over the Summer and already were in trouble. They were just banned from all sporting events, extracurricular events, graduation ceremony and prom.
Maybe that'd be enough for the Glenbrook High School students?
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05-13-2003, 10:47 AM
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My take:
The school would be better off without them...and so would the other students.
That said, count on the parents and the legal system to really futz this up. In the end, I think the suspensions will stick but the threat of expulsion will not. Some students will definitely receive some type of legal penalty for their actions.
Let's ask Dr. Phil... |
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05-13-2003, 11:36 AM
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"They also violated the school's hazing policy and sections of the Illinois School Code regarding activities of non-sanctioned student groups."
How does the school have legal right to control what a student may or may not do in their personal life?
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05-13-2003, 11:53 AM
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|  I feel bad for the kids for finding this as fun when there is so much more out there to enjoy that won't hurt others or themselfs
but at the same time i feel that asault is just that and it is not tollerated by law or schools.
looking at the video there was asault.
ps: if it were my kids they would get more then supended
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05-13-2003, 12:38 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by lights
ps: if it were my kids they would get more then supended
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LOL I hear that
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05-13-2003, 12:52 PM
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"ps: if it were my kids they would get more then supended"
This would probably do more good that a suspension. What will they be doing while on suspension, more partying.
They should be kept in school and given some form of a inschool punishment, scrubbing the school floors of the bathrooms with a toothbrush comes to mind.
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05-13-2003, 01:12 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by mad1 "ps: if it were my kids they would get more then supended"
This would probably do more good that a suspension. What will they be doing while on suspension, more partying.
They should be kept in school and given some form of a inschool punishment, scrubbing the school floors of the bathrooms with a toothbrush comes to mind. | Dishes, sweep mop the floors, paint, cut grass with scissors, trim hedges etc etc. There are many many things that they can do around my house. When they are not doing some chore then they better be studying.
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05-13-2003, 02:11 PM
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Since when do high-schoolers haze seriously anyhow? That's a "right of passage" for college orgs and frats. They're barely even of legal age yet if that. Mom and Pop still foot the bill. The hazing organizer should be scrubbing the bowls with a toothbrush and scraping gum in the food court naked wearing depends, imho.
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