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Old 04-24-2003, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Privacy Ruling Goes Against Verizon

This case really has to go all the way to the Supreme Court.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Apr24.html

The issue is search and surrender of personal information without a search warrant. A search warrant requires probably cause.

This is a hugely important case that will ultimately be decided in Verizon's favor.

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Old 04-24-2003, 10:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"If users of pirate peer-to-peer sites don't want to be identified, they should not break the law by illegally distributing music," Sherman said. "Today's decision makes clear that these individuals cannot rely on their ISPs to shield them from accountability."

Wow, these people either just don't get it, or avoid it because they know the greater issue here would kill them.
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between this and www.theinquirer.net/?article=9075

things are not good. time to start writing state and federal reps. I think.

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And what would you write? We all know that what we are doing is illegal and essentially stealing.

Hey, I enjoy a free ride as much as everybody else. Just let me know when I need to get off so I don't miss my stop.
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Old 04-27-2003, 02:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Blech, the music industry has too much money. I smell another Billy Goat Gates wannabe.

Disney tried to take out Phillips for CD-R's and they where unsuccessful. Why they tried? Beacuse they feared of piracy of movies. Jeez, Disney is in the top for sales of movies. Not only that but they also have a softcore porn industry.
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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what would I write???

that running a firewall should in no way be against the law. Most firewalls are run strictly for security reasons. Not to hide the downloadng of copyrighted material.

I would write that I don't like the RIAA being impowered with policing authority. Once given this right - where is the oversight? Will they detect someone running NAT and force the ISP to suspend their service??

I have a bunch of legally ripped mp3's on my hard-drive. I worry that the burden of proof will somehow be shifted to ME - that I would have to provide the RIAA with proof that I bought the original CD's. And honestly, I don't have receipts for my music CD's - who does? "Mr. Kenyg, please provide us with proof that you indeed purchased blah or fork over $1000." God forbid I can't find my copy of 'The Wall' - "thanks Nr.1 son"

I would write that I use blank CD-R's to backup and transfer data - and I'm increasingly ticked off that there is a royalty paid to the RIAA with every blank cdr I buy.

I don't run any P2P programs, or engage in file sharing or downloading - but I worry that this super-dmca stuff is going to be passed do to lobbyist pressure from the MPAA and RIAA - and will give them authority they should be allowed to have.

ISP's build and maintain the highway. Law enforcement should check for speeding. Dodge, Ford, and General Motors should not.
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I think someone should hack the RIAA. Just do it.

The recording industry is rich. Period. And they want more.

Verizon should win, or all is lost.


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Poor guy, could've been anyone we know......
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