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Old 04-16-2003, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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10W30 vs. 10W40

Hi All!

What's the difference between 10W30 and 10W40 (engine oil)? I did some googling on it but everything I found is mechanics mumbo jumbo! I'm never talking in tech tongue to a non tech person again... Now I know how they feel

Anyway, does anyone know the difference? Where one should be used or not used?

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Old 04-16-2003, 01:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here's what I *THINK* it is:

the first number is for color, 5 is almost like water and 20 is very dark.

second number is for viscosity : low for very liquid like water and higher means like molasse.

20W50 is often used in older motors with small leaks, like mine. Being more like molasse, it leaks less. Not to be used in winter though.
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Old 04-16-2003, 01:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You should use what the Owners manual states.

I had a mechanic told me it wouldn't hurt to stray away from recommended weights once in awhile.


Here's my understanding: the first number represents the "lower end temperature" and the second is "higher temp states"

i.e. If you live in a climate where it is always cold and never gets extremely hot use something like 0w30 or 5w30,etc.... if you live where it is usually extremely hot and usually not very cold then, 15w50.
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No, no,no...

The "w" stands for "winter.

10w40 will be as thin as 10 weight oil of the same temperature when the temperature of the oil is cold. (in the winter )

But it will be as thick as 40 weight oil of the same temperature when it is hot.
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The different numbers represent the viscosity range. ie; 10w30 means the oil's viscosity range goes from 10 weight to 30 weight and so on with the different number designations. As driving conditions demand the oil can actually change it's viscosity.
And there are also straight weight oils that stay the same viscosity pretty much no matter what. ie; 30w, 40w, 50w, etc.

P.S. the "w" stands for weight.
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LOL


This thread already looks like all the other ones concerning 10w-this and 20w-that.


Cadd- Your explaination is what I was getting at.
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So...

Living in the lower Mainland (BC Canada) where it's never to cold and never to hot... I should be using 10w30 or 40.
I'm trying to figure out why my father in law (who is a retired mechanic) uses 10w30 in my F150 (5.4 litre) and 10w40 in my wifes jetta (4 banger).
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P.S. the "w" stands for weight.
Nope. you can buy 20, and 20w. the w stands for winter.

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Oil viscosity grades with a "W" were formulated for cold temperatures, while viscosity grades without the "W" were suited for higher temperatures. Before the development of viscosity modifiers in the 1940s allowed the manufacture of multi-grade motor oils, motorists commonly had to switch viscosity grades in their vehicles with the seasons. U.S. oil companies have been marketing multi-viscosity oils, such as SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-40 and SAE 20W-50, since 1945.
from http://www.performancempg.com/MotorOilRateGas.htm
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So...

Living in the lower Mainland (BC Canada) where it's never to cold and never to hot... I should be using 10w30 or 40.
I'm trying to figure out why my father in law (who is a retired mechanic) uses 10w30 in my F150 (5.4 litre) and 10w40 in my wifes jetta (4 banger).
The Jetta engine is harder on the oil than the Ford. That's one reason to use a higher viscosity. Another is the clearances in the engine (how "worn out" it is.) A worn engine works better with a heavier oil: but not too heavy! Especially if it's very cold.
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Out of Curiousity... Why is the jetta engine harder on the oil?
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