Did the War cause all this upheaval?

[Terminal23]

Since a few members were banned I was wondering if the war caused this or would they have been banned for something else? I really don't mind my self as I like to hang out with like mind persons and preferably ones that ain't anti American. I can't help but notice that the some of the banned members were not American.So in my opinion, their rights to free speech don't apply since they are not American to begin with. I might be wrong, but like I said this is my own opinion. I think that people do deserve to have their own thoughts. But, in a time and day like this, we need to stick together and protect our country. Whether or not someone from another country or for that matter this country likes it or not. Bush did not invade Iraq to solve old feuds or take over oil. He went there to keep the people of this country safer or at least try to.Freeing an oppressed people was secondary I think. None the less,I'm grateful for the man for trying to do what he thinks is right.Only time will tell what the final outcome will be from this war or any other conflict. Anyway you look at it, we either win or lose. Maybe this war will prevent future attacks on this country or maybe not. I only no that if you do nothing but try to appease bullies you in up on the short stick.

[OuTpaTienT]

Originally posted by Terminal23
So in my opinion, their rights to free speech don't apply since they are not American to begin with.

Your rights to free speech don't apply here either. This is a private run web site. What Scott says, goes, period.

[Toddly]

Originally posted by Terminal23
Since a few members were banned I was wondering if the war caused this or would they have been banned for something else? I really don't mind my self as I like to hang out with like mind persons and preferably ones that ain't anti American. I can't help but notice that the some of the banned members were not American.So in my opinion, their rights to free speech don't apply since they are not American to begin with. I might be wrong, but like I said this is my own opinion. I think that people do deserve to have their own thoughts. But, in a time and day like this, we need to stick together and protect our country. Whether or not someone from another country or for that matter this country likes it or not. Bush did not invade Iraq to solve old feuds or take over oil. He went there to keep the people of this country safer or at least try to.Freeing an oppressed people was secondary I think. None the less,I'm grateful for the man for trying to do what he thinks is right.Only time will tell what the final outcome will be from this war or any other conflict. Anyway you look at it, we either win or lose. Maybe this war will prevent future attacks on this country or maybe not. I only no that if you do nothing but try to appease bullies you in up on the short stick.

Your outlook is disturbing to say the least. Are you saying that if people are not Americans they do not deserve to speak freely?

[Hawkeye]

What about the ancient civilizations that created Democracy, are they too not aloud to speak freely?

Your rights to free speech don't apply here either. This is a private run web site. What Scott says, goes, period.

I second what OuT said, it's not ur site terminal...

[Gomer]

So in my opinion, their rights to free speech don't apply since they are not American to begin with.

ROFL... can't help but laugh.

first of all... no one here at techimo has the right to "free speech" regardless of age, race or creed. That much is obvious from the FAQ, and rightfully so.

second... If it were true that free speech did apply here at techimo, the idea that it would be fine and dandy to discriminate against non-americans is ludicrous. It goes 100% against the grain of what techimo is all about.

That attitude is the exact reason there is so much upheaval here at techimo.

[Martoch]

The war is NOT causing all of the nonsense around here, the people are...to say this in the friendliest way possible, threads like this are causing most of it.


OuT speaks for me as well...

Originally posted by Terminal23
I can't help but notice that the some of the banned members were not American

First, I'd like make it absolutely clear that the only "minorities" of any sort that have been banned are those from a "minority" group of members that cannot adhere to the rules of this site. Simply put, I am only aware of 2 (two) members that have been banned for mis-conduct in war/political threads since the war started. One was from the USA: one was from the UK. One of them supported the war effort: one opposed it.

Other than spammers, I believe the only other members banned during that period were previously banned members that got rebanned for repeating the original offence(s).

To answer your question, there were a number of members displaying poor etiquette prior to the war, and the high emotion of the war has accentuated it. Unfortunately, many are now making accusations of bias and heavy-handedness without taking into account the obvious increase in the amount of poor conduct recently.

[Terminal23]

Maybe I should have phrased my question differently. I was not implying any thing like racism or the sort. It was merely an observation on my part. Rightly or wrongly, a mere observation. I did not want to appear like I think non-Americans don't have rights. I just think they don't have the full picture since they do not live here. Oh well, put my foot in it again.

[Gomer]

Not living here may even provide them with more of the picture.

[Toddly]

Originally posted by Terminal23
Maybe I should have phrased my question differently. I was not implying any thing like racism or the sort. It was merely an observation on my part. Rightly or wrongly, a mere observation. I did not want to appear like I think non-Americans don't have rights. I just think they don't have the full picture since they do not live here. Oh well, put my foot in it again.

It sure gave me that impression. People have different opinions and you need to accept it. You gave me the a clear impression of intolerance.