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Old 03-28-2003, 03:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gaming 10 Reasons to Oppose the War with Iraq

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Old 03-28-2003, 03:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good reasons!

better link here 10 reasons!

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Old 03-28-2003, 03:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If those are the 10 best reasons then the pros outweigh the cons.

And a number of these reasons are false:

1. War with Iraq won't make us safer.
We were safe before the war? 9/11 wasn’t brought on as a result of a war.

2. There is no imminent threat.
There is evidence that Iraq had WMD, and their unwillingness to cooperate with inspectors supported it. As for means of deployment, it only takes one nut with a jar of VX to do a crapload of killing.

3. A preemptive attack violates the U.N. charter.
The strike was a follow-thru on warnings in UN resolutions. “Severe consequences” doesn’t mean we were going to bury them under more resolutions.

4. Our allies don't support us in this war.
The Coalition of the Willing is quite large.

5. Thousands of innocent people may die.
Thousands died before the war. If you weren’t protesting those don’t start now.

6. Young American men and women will fight and die.
Can’t argue with this. But like every other war lets hope it is for a good cause.

7. Funding for education, environment and health care is already being cut in order to pay for the "war on terror."
We could divert that money back to education. Then when terrorists kill 1000’s of kids there’ll be even more money per kid.

8. Things may not be better after a war.
But they might.

9. There are other options.
The war has started. It won’t be over ‘til it’s over.

10. The American people have deep misgivings about this war.
70% + support it.

Now for some reasons not to oppose it:

1. Opposing the war won't cause it to end any sooner.

2. Opposing the war demoralizes our troops and encourages Saddam's troops, causing the war to go on longer and result in more deaths. These additional deaths are your fault.
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Quote:
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If those are the 10 best reasons then the pros outweigh the cons.

And a number of these reasons are false:

1. War with Iraq won't make us safer.
We were safe before the war? 9/11 wasn’t brought on as a result of a war.

Why are you linking 9/11 with iraq? I thought that was the reason u.s. went to afghanistan?

2. There is no imminent threat.
There is evidence that Iraq had WMD, and their unwillingness to cooperate with inspectors supported it. As for means of deployment, it only takes one nut with a jar of VX to do a crapload of killing.

U.S. military budget is about 100x times larger than that of iraq. The imminent thread seems to be to israel only, which is u.s. ally.

There is a big difference between potential kill rate and actual.


3. A preemptive attack violates the U.N. charter.
The strike was a follow-thru on warnings in UN resolutions. “Severe consequences” doesn’t mean we were going to bury them under more resolutions.

That still doesn't counter the fact that it violates it.

4. Our allies don't support us in this war.
The Coalition of the Willing is quite large.

You call a coalition of, how many are there, six countries that actively support it, large?

5. Thousands of innocent people may die.
Thousands died before the war. If you weren’t protesting those don’t start now.

To whom are you referring? I don't recall seeing thousand of u.s. citizens die because of iraq.

6. Young American men and women will fight and die.
Can’t argue with this. But like every other war lets hope it is for a good cause.

Nothing to add

7. Funding for education, environment and health care is already being cut in order to pay for the "war on terror."
We could divert that money back to education. Then when terrorists kill 1000’s of kids there’ll be even more money per kid.

Yeah, blame iraq again for the al-qaeda terrorists.

8. Things may not be better after a war.
But they might.

The original reason is flawed, and a flawed response is expected.
However, going to war just because it 'might' make things better seems loose.


9. There are other options.
The war has started. It won’t be over ‘til it’s over.

Quick and swift.

10. The American people have deep misgivings about this war.
70% + support it.

I don't have new information about this so I won't say a thing.

Now for some reasons not to oppose it:

1. Opposing the war won't cause it to end any sooner.

2. Opposing the war demoralizes our troops and encourages Saddam's troops, causing the war to go on longer and result in more deaths. These additional deaths are your fault.
What I did is wrong, I added my responses in italic after j-excels counters.
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You mean the article wasnt intended as a tongue in cheek(sarcasm) page?

After thinking about it I think someone should let them know it has already happened.

Unfortunately : LIKE pregnancy IT CANT be undone. The moment the first bomb was dropped it became to late to do anything but carry through until the end.

As much as I hate this war and disagree with the president we are in it now UNTIL the end. I will support the government to the best of my abilities, Whatever the outcome.

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Just look at the groups that support that site. Those are all the reasons you need to support the war.
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5. Thousands of innocent people may die.
Thousands died before the war. If you weren’t protesting those don’t start now.

To whom are you referring? I don't recall seeing thousand of u.s. citizens die because of iraq.


Ummm....perhaps the reference was to the thousands of Iraqi citizens that die under Saddams cruel dictatorship. Remember? People put into wood chippers? Gassing his own citizens? The Kurds??? The man doesn't give a rats behind about his own people, what makes you think he won't get a hair up his butt someday and start making moves on other countries again? He started the war with Iran, he invaded Kuwait. He is a known threat to the peace of the region. One of the biggest reasons we are there beyond the obvious is because none of the surrounding nations have the might to rid themselves of this threat on their own.
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It is very Sad that the people of this land get their info(and Knowledge in some cases) form the TV.

Instead try reading (get your hands on international papers, listen to world news, stop living in a box). There is a whole world out there. The media in this country is ridicules and blinds the people of this great nation.

For or Against the war, NO MATTER try to read and then write intelligently about the subject. Don’t feed me and the others Media babble. This only shows ones lack of pursuit for the Real truth and it is merely regurgitation of the censored US media.

Try to think on a larger scale ! ! !
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