War crimes

i heard about the POWS being murdered and having there video showed in iraq. We complain about them breaking the geneva connection by treating them humane and video taping it


My question is this.

http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-toc.htm

http://www.mediamonitors.net/gowans22.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle0902.html

this one is interesting to read:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/de...pows-d13.shtml

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill..._warcrime.html

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...raq000515.html

when will these war crimes be brought out and charges made? im not familar with how these go about so could someone explain this to me?


(btw im not saying we deserve it, im just confused on how we are handling things)

Good and valid points, GZ. But the US seems to turn to International Institutions when it's suitable and shows utter contempt and disregard for them when its not suitable.

The way the US POWs were brutalised before being shot is certainly a crime if it happened the way we believe it did. It is upto the International War Crimes Tribunal to determine exactly what happened and to punish the guilty as it did when the War in Yugoslavia got over.

I just hope that the war is over without more loss of life. It is all so senseless.

[Chuckiechan]

Apparantly since no charges have been brought, these charges are groundless. Given the anti-US feelings here and abroad, as well as at the UN these charges have been thouroughly investigated.

If they have not, I guess the promoters can always fall back on to conspiracy theories.

I can't imagine us getting a pass for doing atrocities, day in and day out!

[Mike]

Well GZ3 could you do us lazy non-clickers a favor? Can you sum up the important links, or do you want me to click and read for myself?

[ben-the-slacker]

Guess when on top of the world, you can get away with anything.

[Theophylact]

Sorry: you heard about GIs being killed, and you heard about captive GIs being displayed. I hear it claimed that the latter is somehow a violation of the Geneva Conventions; I'm not sure how that's the case, but if so, we're in violation too on the basis of what we did in Afghanistan.

But if killing GIs in what our President says is a legal war constitutes murder, then either you know something about this situation that I don't , or war has been redefined so that what the opposite side does is automatically murder.

We expect to take losses. If we didn't, one could argue that what we were doing was murder.

I want us to win as quickly and as bloodlessly (on both sides) as possible. But don't cheapen this with hyperbolic language.

[Gomer]

GZ... still sorting through that info... fascinating.

I highly suggest members take time to sort through it. I will probably use that as a mine of information.

I saw on both FOX News and CNN long lines of Iraqi POWs walking with their hands on their heads and guarded by armed US soldiers on the flanks. Their faces were plainly visible.

Rumsfeld says showing poWs on TV or to curious public is against the Geneva Convention. So why is the US breaking the Convention and at the same time telling Iraqis to follow it.

Maybe its OK for the US to humiliate Iraqi soldiers but not vice versa.

This type of hypocracy on the part of the US is damages what little credibility this country has left internationally.

Shame.

[cyphen]

Theo, this is how I've seen it reported and heard it on the radio several times today - that Allied prisoners of war were put in public on camera and forced to answer questions in public. During this they showed footage of other Allied POWs in an Iraqi morgue with massive headwounds consistent with execution style murder. That is what they are talking about. These POWs were a repair crew that made a wrong turn, and came under fire.

Those taken prisoner in Afghanistan (I'm assumng you are referring to terrorists) and hauled over to Guantanamo Bay are considered unlawful combatants - however their treatment at guantanamo bay has been in accordance with Geneva Conventions as if they were prisoners of war.

[ILC]

Theo and others,

It seems blatantly obvious from the video that the soldiers in the background seemed to have been savagely beaten and had gun shot wounds to their heads. Well both are pretty analogous with combat, except the wounds were in places where the Kevlar helmet should have protected (if in fact they were combat wounds). Given the harsh treatment of our POW’s in Desert Storm, I will almost guarantee these soldiers were executed.

ILC