War progress. (big honkin brass ones)

[Epidemic]

Not a tactic I would have considered but the best for saving civillian life.

But any one who says american military is not full of the bravest and best trained in the world is off his rocker.

To forgo blowing up power, leaving command and control in place we enter the country with impunity. Dozens of fire fights and barely a scratch on our side (so far and hopefully to continue).

All I have to say is WOWIE WOW WOW!!!!! OMG American military might Frickin amazes me.

This not the move of someone who is careless about civillian lives.

[speedstik]

I agree, my only concern is that Saddam does something stupid in Baghdad once we reach there, that is if he is still alive. When I say something stupid I mean like setting off a dirty bomb or chem/bio attack in Baghdad.

Epidemic, once again you are full of misleading statements.

Strip away the armour of $4 million tanks and the helicopter/air suport and let the troops fight with the enemy on an even field and then judge.

These young boys are terrified, particularly of chemical/biological stuff. And rightly so. All of us would be.

But saying that using highly advanced weapons of mass destruction (to support soldiers) is hardly bravery or valor.

I do not want to be misunderstood by some of the more extremest members but the fact is that the US military will fight this war with the best resources available to them.

And so will the Iraqi soldiers.

Both sides will have anxious moments, terrifying moments and moments of fear. And they are all brave.

To say that "Wowie...." is just like cheerleading -- empty words that do not reflect reality.

I do wish the US/UK troops the best of luck in getting rid of the evil regime with minimal loss of US/UK/Iraqi lives.

[Epidemic]

Shahani,

The thing that you do not understand here shahani is not the fact that we are moving the troops in. It is the fact that we are moving them in this moment. We have left the power on, Iraqi television on, we have not take out command and control nor taken out the AAA in Bagdad. At this point there could be no or at least highly risky close air support of the troops.

I say again Wowie. This is a ballsy move by the army of freedom.

It is bravery of the first order. This all volunteer army is risking life and limb contrary to the claims of cowardice. There have been many skirmishes where they have fought and we have even given up one so far in battle.

[kenyg]

I think quite a lot of credit needs to be given to this administration, and commanders in the field - they've evidently decided to withhold the 'shock & awe' portion of the campaign - and have focused on giving the Iraqi military the utmost opportunity to capitulate. They seem to be as concerned with unnessessary loss of life as they are with their own lives.

bravo US military!

[Epidemic]

There is no other conclusion which I could draw. This is not about the safest method for your troops it is about the reduction of civillian casualties.



The only concern I would have though is the words of saddam regarding the impending war.

paraphrase ~ "we have been planning for the US to attack, their arrogance will be their undoing."

I kinda have a bit of fear that this is all an elaborate ploy to over extend our forces and pull a russia on them. Have alot of troops claim to want to surrender to bait them in, Cut them off and surround them.

I do not think this will be completely effective but it sure would hurt alot.

The only reason they are delaying the Awe and Shock is that the world opinion so so much against this invasion that they want to minimize any spectacular display of firepower anainst an entire country on the pretext of removing Saddam.

This whole war has no basis, no justification and is the result of extremely poor judgement by a morally corrupt Administration.

[Epidemic]

Perform this exercise as honestly and completely as you think possible.


http://www.techimo.com/forum/t57715.html

Reasons are clear and evident to those who want to look.

You meant to say the extremely poor judgement the morally corrupt governments of 40 nations right.

Popular votes in those countries tell me that their governments actually believe that the threat is great enough to risk their political carreers. Popular opinion means little if all the facts are not passed to the public.

Epidemic, the supporters have been bribed by the US and you know it. Financially and otherwise. Majority of the world countries and people disapprove.

You scratch my back kinda thing. The Administration is so desperate for support that instead of convincing people with evidence they offer money disguised as asid.

Oh, well, what can you expect from this administartion in any case.

[cunokyle]

shahani
There are more nations involved in the current liberation of Iraqi people then were involve with the Gulf War. Amazing that over half of the european countries are involved(14 of 25), but somehow you believe that the greatest nation in the world is morally corrupt.
Also amazing, the administration is getting support from the Democratic party.

And also, the reason they have with held the "shock and awe" is what? You are involved in the decision making are you? Funny, all of the news coverage seems to back up what was stated above about giving the Iraqi military time to give up with out lots of blood shed.