CARD TRICK!!!! - HELP!!!

[brandon184]

Okay...

Some girls felt the need to stop over at my house last night, so we were sitting around, and they wanted to show me a card trick... I can USUALLY figure card tricks out, but this one stumped me. From what I gathered, it's not "rare" among the "card trick scene" (LOL), but the main problem is that it is a two person trick. You'll see what I mean in a second...

They laid the cards out on the table like this..



I'm going to refer to me as me, the first girl as "Person 1" and the second girl as "Person 2"...

Okay, as Person 1 turned around, Person 2 would ask me to choose a card. I would pick a card, and then Person 1 would turn back, facing the cards. Person 2 would then put her finger on (seemingly) random cards, and Person 1 would say whether or not it was the card. They were not verbally communicating, other than person 2 saying, "Is it this one?" and Person 1 responding with "Yes" or "No.".

Here are some things I noticed..

a) When I made person 2 start pointing at a specific card FIRST, and then I chose that card, person 1 would always get it wrong. I also noticed that they would allow me to switch the cards around, just as long as the layout stayed the same. I didn't notice any significant patterns they took in the randomized form. (didn't notice any "closing in" on a specific card, etc.)

b) When Person 2 touched the card, I didn't see any difference at all in the way she touched the card. I analyzed this for a little while, so I'm pretty sure I'm right with this. When I say this, I mean in all ways. (the speed from card to card, hesistation, hand "configuration", etc.)

c) When I asked that they take some cards away, they would... But they could still only have a few configurations. The fewest number of cards they would have is four. When they had the four cards, there would be a 3, 7, 4 & a Queen. When I would choose the Queen, they would always go to 7 - then 4 - then to the Queen.

d) When I asked them to touch the tip of a card only, they wouldn't do it. But I tried asking all sorts of things like, "Does it mean anything when you touch a colored part of the card, compared to a blank part of the card?" .. They said it didn't make any difference, but still refused to only touch the outside of the card.

e) They didn't look at each other in any way. They even offered to put something between them, so that they couldn't look at each other - just to prove that it wasn't part of the trick..

f) POSSIBLY IMPORTANT ... One of the few clues they gave me, was that there is a special card involved. I've also been told that there is no math involved in the game at all (ex. Counting a specific number of cards, and then pointing at the card..)

I've been trying to figure this out for a while, but am unable to do it. I'm hoping someone here has seen it before, because I would LOVE to see them on Monday and show them that I know how they do it. lol...

Any help is APPRECIATED!

Thanks.

[brandon184]

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[brandon184]

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[Gutter Ball]

Okay, they way that I know is this. Look at the way the 10 cards are laid out. Now take any number 10 card and look. Notice anything? The patterns are the same Now whenever you picked a card (let's say the bottom one in the middle in the 10 card config above) the person would count the cards (in any order) and when they got to the 10 card, they would tap the bottom middle symbol. That's about the best as I can explain it, hope it helps ya out!

[brandon184]

Sorry to be a pain in the a**, but I don't understand/comprehend what you just explained.

What pattern am I looking for, and what do you mean by the "number 10 card"?

[Gutter Ball]

LOL Okay, it took a few tries before I saw it too. Look at how the 10 hearts are laid out on the 10 of hearts. They're laid out just like the diagram of cards you drew (4 in first column, 2 in second column and then 4 in last column). So you pick the 4th card in the last column (we'll say it's a queen). The 10 of hearts will be in one of the columns somewhere. When the person "touches" the cards...he'll touch the 10 of hearts in a certain spot (in this case, the 4th heart in the last column...corresponding to the location of the queen). Hmmm, I guess you might need to have it shown to you....or I'm not good at explaining it

[caddmannq]

Yep. Thats why they could never get it right whe the correct card was pointed to first. Unless you actually had selected the ten.

...OR, a four when there were four cards used, a five when there were five cards used, etc.

Try this: make them use 4 cards

ace
king
queen
jack

They will refuse or fail 3 of 4 times.

[brandon184]

LOL - That's how they do it... I asked them if that was how, and they confessed.

THANKS!

- Brandon

[the jester]

We used to do something similar when I was ay college - a kind of drinking game if I remember correctly

We'd lay a matrix of 9 coins out on the table at the bar. One person would leave the bar while the "victim" touched one coin.

The ESP-empowered fella would come back in and after much melodrama correctly pronounce which coin had been touched to the absolute stupefaction of the "victim"

I'll let you work out the rest