If nearly everybody in Iraq is packing heat,

[Theophylact]

why isn't Saddam out on his ear? Iraq's reply to the NRA.

[Bill in SD, CA]

Maybe because you only have a 1 in100 chance of shooting the real Saddam. I'd hate to be the guy who shot at the wrong one! Ouch!! Ouch!!

Bill

[daveleau]

This one example won't change much since there is so much evidence to the contrary. These people are kept in constant fear and are frequently tortured and murdered by the government. Not a good example. I would try a free (Switzerland, UK, Australia, US) country as an example, and then you will see that the NRA is correct in its stance.

[Theophylact]

daveleau, your argument is tautological. A free country is free, and having guns won't make it unfree.

The question is, if guns make you free, why isn't Iraq free?

[daveleau]

Guns don't make you free. A free nation with guns carried and owned by the population is a safer nation. There are no absolutes, though. Having guns does not make you free, nor does not having guns. Iraq would need freedom of assembly and a motivated and competent leader to start a rebellion against Saddam. This has not been successful so far, but it is not because they have or do not have guns. To me, that is a pretty lame article whose sole purpose is to try and bring the completely uneducated (on gun issues) to the dark side (of making guns illegal, which is an unconstitutional act).

[daveleau]

It is like saying a books do not help in education. If a person has books, but is uneducated, then it can be said that books are not the cause of education, when in fact there are tons of outside parameters not included, like what language the books are in, what the content is or if the person can read or write. Pretty poorly written and thought out article, and I am not just saying that because I am for gun rights. You know that I will look at new input objectively.

[Epidemic]

If someone made a grab for the seat of power in the USA there would be a revolt.

Shut up bush haters dont go there.

did you see red dawn. Nuf said. the highschool football teams would grab pistols, ambush ak47 totin platoon. with their new rifles they would ambush a tank crew while they were fueling, then they take the tank to an air base and recover a few f16's finally they would take a few nuke silo's and nuke the home country of whom ever the agressor was. end of story.

[Knothead]

I just got done writing to them....basically I said what Dave has said here.
We have a Constitution here, and we're prepared to defend it, and our freedom.

The people of Iraq can't even SAY 'constitution', much less have any idea of what it implies. They know they can be abducted, held w/o due process, even murdered.

A gun to such a wretched person has a real different meaning than to an American. And by 'American', I mean the kind who supports the 2nd Amendment, heck, maybe even the NRA!

The other kind of Americans may cry and moan about guns, and that's okay, too.

We'll make sure you always have that right!



"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" ---Thos. Jefferson

[Chuckiechan]

I think the fact that they extend executions to your family and relatives based on what you did is a powerful deterrent.

Plus, I don't think the ordinary Iraqi has firearms.

Think about the US. How close can you get to the mayor, governor, judges, congressmen, etc. Takes planning and luck, and it isn't easy. We aren't as free as we think!

[Knothead]

Originally posted by Chuckiechan
Plus, I don't think the ordinary Iraqi has firearms.

Yeah! How do we know this is actually true?

OR...maybe it is, and possibly because gun ownership is compulsory...? You know, for shootin' up invading infidels!