Whey Protein Isolate (WPI)

"Hydrolyzation is useful when protein delivery is needed very quickly so the body doesn't have to require the time and enzymes doing it. The benefit is of having a quickly absorbed protein immediately after a workout to ensure the muscle tissue is flooded with nutrients in a timely manner."

[Theophylact]

Socalgal, what's "BV"?

Whey protein should be completely fat-free, but it is animal protein. Tofu is vegetable protein, but it's not a complete source of amino acids.

[J-Excel]

I went to a seminar that was pushing EverLEAN protein shake, which was very good by the way. Here's their FAQ.. http://www.myleanlifestyle.com/FAQ/index.asp

This seminar was given by a fellow named Joe Dillon. His plan included:

1) A high protein diet. Each meal should be a fist-size portion of protein, a fist-size potion of good carbs, and a thumb of fat. If that isn't enough to satisfy you then increase the portion of protein. He suggested snacks of raw nuts or seeds between meals.

2) Hydration. You should drink at least 1 oz of pure water a day for every two pounds you weigh. Preferably this should be distilled water. Avoid dehydrators such as caffeine, fruit juice (pure sugar), alcohol (purest sugar), and even diet sodas.

3) Light aerobic exercise at least three times a week. Walking using light hand weights for 30 minutes at a pace that gives you 70% of your max heart rate for example.

There were four other elements to his plan, but these are the main ones. He said if you do nothing else the best one of the three is #2, drinking enough water. He put that even ahead of his own shake that he was trying to sell.

[THRUSH]

BV- bioavailability / biological value of the protein, estimates % of absorbed nitrogen that's retained.
An easy estimate is supposed to be if you divide the grams of protein per serving by the serving size in grams and multiply by 100.

I personally wouldn't go for wpi over whey protein concentrate, it's a lot more expensive and won't make a huge difference imo, maybe 10% or less bv difference. They are both absorbed quickly.

I use whey protein from this place, it's very cheap and good stuff!

http://supplementdirect.com/

Powdered milk or egg is good too, but this is quickly absorbed.

It's good to mix in some low GI, slow release carbs along with protein before a workout (maybe 30-60 minutes beforehand). Again like you said, nothing too filling that will delay time for liftoff but nothing that will give you a quick blood sugar surge either.

Here's a site for a decent book, http://www.powereating.com
I don't necessarily agree with every point but it's pretty good from what I remember.

[Martoch]

Originally posted by J-Excel

2) Hydration. You should drink at least 2 oz of pure water a day for every pound you weigh. Preferably this should be distilled water.

That's exactly what I tell people about dieting...even if all you did was replace every drink you have each day with pure water, you would lose weight easily.

But 2 oz for every pound??? That means I would need to drink forty-nine 8 oz glasses of water every day!


I would have to relocate my office to the restroom...


Also, be sure to eat many small meals a day (do NOT skip breakfast) as this helps to maintain a higher metabolic rate.

hmm.. interesting, THRUSH... only 10%?!.. maybe I will go with the concentrate instead of the isolate, then. Cost is still a big factor for me.... Thanks!

Thanks for the link, J-Excel. Agree with food statements you made! Though I tend to really focus on the fat gram content of food more than anything. Some fat is necessary, but I keep my intake of fat very low.

I drink plenty of filtered Brita filtered water.. bottled was costing me alot of money and the filters are cheaper. I'm not giving up my coffee, though... gotta have my caffeine.

A bene of caffeine, though, I read, is that it boosts metabolism up to 20% for about an hour, so that's a plus anytime including during a workout. (I hope it's true)

I eat many times thru-out the day.. small portions.. getting hungry is bad, blood sugar doesn't drop and keeps you from that hunger feeling. Though hunger pangs can be a sort-of twisted good feeling, too lol

I was talking to a guy this morning at the gym and he uses the protein isolate and he likes it (I made sure to ask a muscular guy lol!).. he mixes it with a banana or whatever as a shake in the a.m. He also told me that eating fruit after lunch isn't a good idea as the carbs will not burn off as easily... that kinda ruins my whole cha-cha as I eat LOTS of fruit..

Just so you can get an idea of where I'm at in all this, I've lost 12# and gone from 22% to about 12% body fat with a BMI of about 20.69, since the beginning of the year. So, I'm doing things right.. I just want to it all to be more effective.. build more muscle tone

* OH and Martoch, the latest thoughts are to workout BEFORE eating breakfast to burn stored fat! I really think this works, as I seem to notice a bigger difference if I don't eat before a workout, but I will drink a cup of coffee to boost my metabolism. If you eat before working out, you're burning that foods' stores, not the already stored fat.

[J-Excel]

Originally posted by Martoch
But 2 oz for every pound??? That means I would need to drink forty-nine 8 oz glasses of water every day!

Oops! Inverse that. 1oz for every 2 pounds. So if you weigh 128 pounds that's a half gallon.

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I use a Whey Protein powder suppliment bu this is just to get my daily protien levels to what they should be this is 1 - 1.2grams of protien to 1kg of body weight.

Depending on what product you use you will usually get between 15grams to 29grams of protien from it - also depending on how expensive.

Ideally though you should be eating about 60 - 70% of you daily protien intake, many foods are high in protien but you also have to be careful as many of these foods are also high in fat. Just make sure you read the nutritional information on foods that you buy.

You also should be drinking plenty of water