Transplant Error

[Epidemic]

Should an illegal alien get organs before a Legal one?

16 americans die every day for lack of the valuable donated organs.

The tax payers of America will also flip the bill for both the donation and the law suit. ~$300,000 for the operation and probably millions for the law suit will ultimately end up being pulled from NC medical programs.

I am so sad about the girl dying, however I am even more sad about the two Americans who will die because this transplant was performed on her. Two equally sad stories about american teens whos systems slowly fail for lack of donated organs.


rant off.

[Epidemic]

What difference does it make

Please write a comment on that one.

The difference is that we are providing the service, americans donate their organs to help others. I think the product of those donations should be spent on Americans first.

Thousands of Americans wait while on deaths bed as their bodies literally waste away. Their parents, sisters, brothers, wifes all wait and pray that they might receive their organ before time runs out. Giving their last chance to a person who comes into America ILLEGALLY is plain old wrong.

All things being equal who would you give this limited resource to?

Beautiful American girl 17 with her hopes and dreams all hinging on a transplant with the clock ticking toward death.

Beautiful Illegal girl 17 with her hopes and dreams all hinging on a transplant with the clock ticking toward death.

The tax payer money that will fund the operation, the money from the subsequent suit, and such will all come from our pockets.

Ouch epidemic... this sounds like you're saying Americans deserve to live more than someone from another country...

[Epidemic]

Ouch Surreal, you are saying that all death is equal?

Mexico has organs it can donate and money to pay for it hell they even have the facillities to perform the transplants.

By your logic the pool for american's limited resources (organs)
should be spread across the world equally. Being that we make up only 4% of the world population we should only get 4% of american organs. Think about it.

I am not saying we are better than those who live else where. But when it comes to a LIMITED resource one must default to their own first.

We teach other countries how to perform these operations we provide tech for same. They must come up with the parts and money to do the operation.

We can not provide medical care to the world. In the extreme that would leave nothing for our own.

They have the resources in mexico, they have the money in mexico, they did not have the compassion to help her and yet america funded and killed Americans for a foreign national.

So in a sense two beautiful teen age american girls died for this act of compassion that her own government would not indulge.

[mad1]

First let me state that no one deserves to live any more that another person. My questtion is,
Lets says that there is a family in another country and a member of that family needs a transplant. They enter illegally because they know that the medical procedure will be paid for by the tax payers. Now if your family member has been waiting on the list for the identical transplant and this organ is given to the illegal alien. You have paid your taxes and health insurance premiums for years but yor family member is passed by for this transplant, what is your opinion?

Well if they have transplant lists and someone is waiting how does a newcomer pass up someone already waiting? Or is it based on urgency?

They enter illegally because they know that the medical procedure will be paid for by the tax payers

Is that the real reason? Or is it the technology? Since when does anyone without insurance get the best medical treatment? How did these people even get into the system?

I didn't read they were illegal. Are they? I heard they have been here 3 years.

If illegal, how were they going to pay for the transplant? Can't imagine it was cheep. And without papers, they wouldn't have insurance.

Or were they invited by the hospital as guinea pigs?

Is that OK since they were illegals?

I think these are unimportant issues. What is important is that the doctor(s) and hospital screwed up and will need to be punished.

I imagine the concerned surgeon who admitted he didn't follow the procedure is finished both professionally and financially. Who'd trust him any more? And who'd sell him malpractice insurance?

My guess is they will settle out of court and give the family a few million dollars to avoid teh huge amount of adverse publicity the Hospital will get if they fight after admitting their mistakes.

It's a win-win for all- the hospital claims from insurance, the insurance company increases rates, Hospital gets on with its work.

Except the family who lost a kid.

The lawyers will, of course, be laughing all the way to the bank.

[Epidemic]

It is based on prioritized urgency vs resource limitations.

The resourses are depleated by lets say about 10% because that is the population of illegals. That is approaching the number of legal americans who die on the waiting list.

Like I said before if we give this service to all the worlds population that will mean 96% of Americans would not be on the list any longer and they would simply die.

It is simple what charity do you donate the most money to as joe tax payer. That is right most of your money goes to your family.

Why don't you donate most of your money to people who are more needy than you to the point where you die. Because there are people who are more important to you. In fact I would bet if you were starving you might very well feed your kids before yourself even though you might die for the lack of food. Why is that? Because there is a rating system. I rate my fellow americans higher on the priority list when utilizing limited resources. You don't???

[mad1]

I think the list is based on the need of the transplant for the peson to survive and what place that person is on the list. Can a doctor get his patient a transplant beofore a person that is higher on the list even though his patient has less of a urgency for the transplant?
"I am so sad about the girl dying, however I am even more sad about the two Americans who will die because this transplant was performed on her. Two equally sad stories about american teens whos systems slowly fail for lack of donated organs."
What makes this even worse is that the parents will not donate any of her organs. Now two people have missed the possibility of having a life saving transplant, one has a lung and one has a heart. How can someone take the organs to save of life of their family member but not give organs to save a life in return?

shahani, I would hope that no one is laughing anywhere about this.

How can someone take the organs to save of life of their family member but not give organs to save a life in return?

Now that really sux.