BS Court Ruling

[Mr. Goodbytes]

Story. Ok this abortion thread might have to come sooner than expected. I just don't have time to type it all out right now while online.

A couple has been awarded $300K by a shortsighted judge because their doctor didn't get them their amniocentesis test on time (he was given short notice). The couple would have aborted the child if they knew that she would have a birth defect. Man people are just sick!!!

Zhang said her husband, Fung, could not accept that she had given birth to a disabled child. She testified that having Sherry "totally disrupted our plans.

What is wrong with these people????? My aunt and uncle gave birth to my cousin Kristen who has Down's a number of years ago. She is an active member of the family (to the extent that she can be) and well-loved. Yes, a number of sacrifices had to be made, and their household has changed to accomodate Kristen, but we're all better off for it. To imagine that they would have killed her just because she wasn't perfect just twists my stomach into knots. Down's is not a severely dibilitating defect. It does shorten one's lifespan but does not cause the considerable physical pain or raise the medical expenses that one might take into consideration for an abortion. And even if it was expensive, people can find a way to make ends meet while providing and caring for the child. Does an imperfect baby deserve any less opportunity to live its life to its natural expiration (for lack of a better term) than the rest of us? The answer is clearly no.

[George VII]

I totally agree with you. Abortion is blatant murder, and in my opinion doctors should not under ANY circumstances abort a child!

Jon

[korgul]

To abort a pregnancy because the child has a defect is wrong, very wrong. It is being selfish and very narrowminded.

While I agree that abortion was not an option in this case I do feel that abortion should be allowed in some cases. If the woman was raped and became pregnant because of the rape. She should be allowed to have an abortion.

[no1_vern]

How about when the woman has only a 20% chance of living to carry her child to term??

What about a woman who cant care for the child(crack/drugs junkie)??
What about a woman who hasnt enough money to care for the child??
What about a woman who is in a coma?

[Epidemic]

Selfish????

It all depends on if you take the religous tack and say that life it is a human when the sperm touches the egg.

I personally do not believe this. If I were to know in the first trimester that our future baby would be a down syndrome sufferer. i would likely want the pregnency terminated.

I have three kids and to put them through it. Possibly keeping them from getting the schools, parental time and other such things knowing full well that we could have terminated a blob of cells. Not if the fetus got too close to viable I would decide in favor of keeping and loving the child and dam the consequences.

I simply believe that in the early stages of developement there are alternatives to straining the family with down syndrome.

At viable is when I call the cut off point for abortion.

[cowboybooter]

So many questions, so many what if's so many conditions, ( ie it's okay if it's this but not if it's that )

So many emotions.

Be careful people, this is a delicate subject to debate here !

Termination of Pregnancy is legal here in the UK!


CBB

Legal does not mean Moral.

[cowboybooter]

Epedemic,

UK Legal limit is 24 weeks.

Modern PICU medicine has resuscitated premature birth from 22 weeks.

Who can define Viable ?

[ Edit. I hear what you are saying, Surreal, but how about the very recent case ( in the UK ) of the 3 yr old who, according to the coroner, gave up the will to live having been subjected to so much abuse for her entire life. Where was Morality here ? Each case is entirely different, perhaps ? ]

CBB

[Epidemic]

some one elses, Moral does not always mean right.


Prove to me that a zygote has soul. And I will change my position as soon as someone proves that the 2 month fetus has dreams wants and desires and goals.

Until that day I think government has no say in the process.

This is why I draw the line at viable. Viable is a complete baby capable of self supporting all systems. That is by all definitions a baby IMO.

[cowboybooter]

Epedemic

A 'viable' baby would have none of those, for they are mature qualities in perspective.

A 'Viable ' baby will have needs ! Satisfy those needs, and things continue!



CBB