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Old 01-28-2003, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Compare the country.

A recent thread kinda lead this way so I figured I would try to stop the thread crapping.

I hear all the time that Europe has huge tax burden but it is countered with the fact that there are services for all and a minimum salary.

Describe your country via these categories

1) Tax burden federal Income including money taken for old age (SSI), State.

2) approx house hold income

3) Sales tax

4) Housing costs for a family of 4 in a decent neighborhood.

5) annual fuel for car or transportation costs per person .

6) annual fuel/power bill for house

7) Weekly food bill

anything else???

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Old 01-28-2003, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have figgures but I do know that for what you earn, most of Europpe is expensive. I once payed $5 for a half pint of milk at Frankfurt Airport (the kind that costs like 29c in 7-11).

Buying Power of $ is huge. If you take the average per capita income as, say, $25,000, one years income will get you a perty nifty car.

Not so in Europe. Takes maybe 2-3 years.

That kinda thing.
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Old 01-28-2003, 05:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1: 70-75% total tax burden
2: $95000 (excl tax , more like 45000 after incometax etc this is for my family , swedish avg is wayyy less ithink)
3: 25% on regular goods , 12% on food , and a whooping ~300% on alcohol
4: $~750/month 82m2 3room apartment
5 $~1500 fuel only split 3ways so total 4500
6: $~2500 oil etc
7: $200

This i would say is pretty much avg for stockholm

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/hollywoodending/14.html

"Using fixed prices and purchasing power parity adjusted data, the median household income in Sweden at the end of the 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800, compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households, HUI's study showed.

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Old 01-28-2003, 05:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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1) 27% taken

2) 60K (rough average of most of my married friends)

3) 6-8% (depends onthe state, SC, NC, LA, TX, AL considered here)

4) $1700/month for a really nice home

5) depends on car...$8000 but dependable or $25-30K new...fuel: $360/yr

6) $120-$160

7) $75-100 (for 2)
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1) Progressive taxing, with my 25k€ annual income I pay 25% taxes, which totals in ~26.5/27% with insurances and stuff you have to pay.
The taxing would be ~1.5% higher if I was a member of the church.

My wife pays ~13% tax with ~12k€ annual income.

2) That calculated, the brutto (is that an english word?) income is 37k€/year.

I can't remember the average income of a two person household, but I think it's a little higher (my wife is a primary student), and I'm underpaid.

3) 20% on goods, 17% on food, 12% on some things I can't remember. 75% on gasoline (today's price for 95 unleaded fuel is 1.100€/liter). The tax for alcohol/tobacco is tremendous (1 pack of tobacco costs 4€, 1liter of 40% vodka costs over 16€)

4) In helsinki, there isn't a decent neighbourhood. Apartments costs over 160k€ (~50m2). In the cheaper areas you get your own house for ~100k€ (~100m2), but that means moving far away from the capital.
The rent could be ~1k€ for an apartment in helsinki, our last apartment cost 450€ (77m2) (it was a student apartment, that had mold and rats). The current one costs ~600€ (55m2).
Living is very expensive.

5) ~65€/month for puplic transportation. 160€/month for fuel.
That totals in 1920€/year for fuel and 780€/year for pub. trans.
However, the fuel bill is partly that big because we have to visit our parents regularly (my parents live ~600km away, and my wives ~400km away).

6) I don't know, I haven't paid a single electricity bill in my life. My dads annual power bill was somewhere in 500€ range (he uses oil). I think ours will be something like 200€/year.

7) 80-100€ for two person household, in which both of us eat the hot meal outside home.

Healthcare costs next to nothing, a day at the hospital is something like 20€. And almost all operations are free, medicines are almost free too.
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