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Old 01-09-2003, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors "White-Coller' Criminals Going to 'Prison Farms.

A lot of those so-called "white coller' crime--which is supposedly "non=violant" draw these funky places like Dannbury , CT.

So what gives

Look at it this way, someone steals money or embezzels it by Accounting "slight-o-hand" or faking papers or such or having someone do it for them and draws this prison farm + "community service".

So why is it non-violent ?

Someone looses pension money and can't pay med bilss, some child loses their education which is about the worse crime an educator can do when money is diverted elswhere, a town doesn't get the number of deputy sherriffs it is taxed for so people are at higher risk, a fire department's response time is longer because of money's being diverted to "other project"s graft,--so why is that NON-violent ?

And WHY is it that when they get convicted they get to sit around with other so-called 'white-collers' playing cards --instead of having to watch their back-[no pun] 24/7 ?

When you harm people physically or psychologically in any way, to me that is violent.

And why is a 'white-coller' plea bargain, like 3 years instead of seven and often a lot of "community service" ?

In today's NYPost tabloid there is a story about a Dean at a NYC HS who asked to be transferred because it is too dangerous in his HS and the Principal rewards "looking the other way".

Now how much do you want to bet he will get some "payback" for going public at his new school , once it blows over?

If he does get "payback", isn't that "violence" in so far as it puts people like him and the Teachers in the HS AND the students in physical danger?

And that woudn't even be considered a crime !

I've heard of people sent to Hospital after Hospital for years while the Criminal draws six months.

The thing about so=called viloent crimes is that they are often "Retail".

But "white-coller crime" is often wholesale. My opinion is that this should multiply the sentence--not diminish it.

Recently I heard of a school security guard who got her back injured when kicked from behind while breaking up a fight. He was denied Workman's Comp by the Principal and the School Safety (!) Supervisor because he "couldn't name the Perp".

So why is this not even considered a crime to cover-up a crime to improve the School report of crime? What is the next School Safety Officer going to do when a fight breaks out ?

Who is hurt by that ?

Fraudulant acts that place people in jeopardy like that should be made crimes and be punished as violent crimes.

Save the Prison farms for the very ill or very elderly patients. Send those who hurt people wholesale to do 'hard time', even if they did it with a Pen on a Form.

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Old 01-10-2003, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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And what about "dog-collar" criminals like Cardinal Law? (No offense to [lower-case] law-abiding present company intended, of course.)
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Old 01-10-2003, 09:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree MegaDawg. The fact that people can cause much more damage to many more people, and get slapped by a nun and have to empty a couple trash bins...it's freakin' insane. But why? Because those are the people making the laws. That's why it is the way it is.

Our politicians are mostly criminal. And they would never allow laws that could possible imprison them for years on end. Nope, that wouldn't work, would it!

So how do we fix it? Speak up & vote is our best bet.
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You are all wrong. The point here is that you can not send a rich criminal to the normal prison because they will corrupt the inmates.

They would run the place using future gain to control the populace of the prisson. They also would learn the violent aspects of the prisoners in general pop. This would make mega criminals like in batman and alike.
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Hey ! Watch your language on da Thread

..and I wasn't talkin about turned up collars which is a breech of confidence and faith but the true physical and psychological wholsale violance and the way the Legal system handles it. But some Lawyers are using RICO against the Archdiocese I heard.

We had a socialite run over deliberately I think some nite spot workers and she gets the "seperate" treatment. Hey, wouldn't some other women's life be in jeopardy in the "general popul;ation" ?

But they want to hide how things are and they are also afraid if they arrest and try these Gov't agency crooks, they will "take down " others. Like politicians So they look the other way.

The thing about white collar crime is that it is often a group enterprise. A mugger can work alone--but not a municipal Union bigshot who has to work with Gov't employees . So the rationalization, I am sure , is "the city would be sued". Yeah, and some politicians exposed.

Maybe RICO should be used.

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or is it they would all end up being somebody's beeeatch?

our system of justice is the best money can buy and it can definately be bought. 2 years ago I did 6 months in jail plus got a felony convistion and 5 years of felont probation.
my crime, I found a wallet in a dept of motor vehicles office. instead of turning it in at the desk i tried to find the guy in the parking lot. when i couldnt find him, i took the single 20 dollar bill that was insideand dropped the wallet in a mailbox so it would be returned. i was wrong to take the $20 but figured the post office guys would take it anyway. all his credit cards and personal property was left in thge wallet and made it home to him in 6 days. My court appointed lawyer said all id get was probation as a plea bargain but when we went in front of the judge he added 6 months because i wouldn't say i was trying to steal it instead of trying to return it in the parking lot. even tho the whole incident was on video tape from 3 cameras in the DMV which showed me walk out with the wallet in plain site.

to put things in perspective, two days later a local woman ran over 2 kids on bicycles while drunk, killing one and then left the scene. she had a high priced lawyer and also got a plea bargain her sentance 30 days in jail and 5 years probation.

HOW DO THEY CALL IT A JUSTICE SYSTEM?
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