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01-07-2003, 08:58 PM
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I'd recommend building new boxes for the Jbl's.
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01-07-2003, 09:03 PM
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OK What size,style,front or backloaded,and where do I find info on things like this?
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01-08-2003, 03:13 AM
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I have two 15" EL350 JBLs. They frickin POUND for a 15" cabinet. My dad built the cabinets himself with a JBL speaker spec book. The rest of my PA are 12" Pioneer MI speakers with some sort of low watt horn in home made boxes, built out of the same book.
A lot of people rag on them, but I've become a big fan of Carvin. People think they're junk because they're so cheap, but that's only because they sell direct. Back in the Mother Fletcher days, we dropped $700 on a pair of 2x15" with horn, 600W bi-ampable cabinets, and $800 on a 2x18" tri ported sub cabinet. Best money we ever spent. They sound unebelievable. Vader's Mistress has a set of JBL single 15" with horn 600W cabinets and they don't even come close to comparing to the Carvins.
I won't knock Peavey entirely. Their Black Widow and Scorpion speakers are actually pretty good gear. But they are overpriced when bought in a cabinet. I can get the speakers wholesale.
And BC, have you ever played through a Peavey XXX guitar amplifier? It's the only other thing I will give any respect to with the Peavey name on it (which we colored over with black magic marker). The 5150 is junk, but the XXX and the XXL are pretty nice heads. Cabinets still suck. We use Carvins.
And what are you using the 15"s for? Subs, or mids? If you're using them as subs, look into a folded horn or band-pass type cabinet. If you're going for mid-range, stay with a front loaded cabinet for better dispersal.
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01-08-2003, 12:07 PM
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I used a small peavey amp for a warmup amp but I like a tube Fender 2 12 on stage.I use a stagelead212 now,and it sounds great IMO. I really like Fender guitar amps.I would take a marshall over that though
So where do I find a speaker cabinet calculator??
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01-08-2003, 03:50 PM
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If you have the ratings for the speaker you can do the calculations manually.
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01-08-2003, 04:14 PM
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I haven't pulled the backs off these cabs yet.I will in the next day or three
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01-08-2003, 07:39 PM
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I won't write off Peavey completely. Their FH-1 and FH-2 Black Widow loaded subs were mighty good, even if they did weigh a flippin' ton. I always wanted to cut one open and replicate the cabinet in baltic birch plywood to cut the weight in about half.
And the Classic 30 all-tube guitar amp will out-blackface a clean blackface Fender iffen you set it right. And the overdrive won't scare anybody, but it's a nice vintage-tweedy kind of thang, does well with my Tele.
That said, I don't know how many equipment contract riders for touring concert sound systems I used to see with NO PEAVEY in great big letters, right at the top of the first page. A CS-800 makes a fine bass boat anchor if you can get it at the right price.
Whir, I'm looking at some Carvin 2 x 12 guitar cabs right now. Know anything about them? I need an extension for a Fender Prosonic that's coming home soon.
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01-08-2003, 07:59 PM
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My only experiance with Carvin was a bass player in a band I was in used a Carvin amp,and bass.This was about 10 years ago,but it sounded excellent
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01-08-2003, 08:15 PM
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hehehe...as a result of this thread, looks like my pal Robert is coming over Sunday, and we're gonna start on some speaker enclosures.
He's so far BEYOND anything I know about enclosures, (my last major speaker project was about 30 years ago, and things have changed quite a bit, in terms of technology!  ) that I suspect he's only helping me with MY new speakers because I have a woodshop. We're gonna create two different systems.
One thing I have noticed in good modern speaker construction is the appearance of front baffles over 2" thick! Plus, heavily braced front-to-back...the idea being to create an enclosure that is impervious to the inner driver radiation, and as a result, is totally neutral to sound waves....
Unfortunately, this results in a HEAVY cabinet.
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01-08-2003, 08:24 PM
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Weight is necessary to good sound I think.A big heavy cab always sounds better IMO
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