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Old 12-16-2002, 05:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What did lot say? How is it racist?

What did Lott say that makes him a segregationist/racist?

It started at a party celebrating a 100-year-old senators life and public service. Lot made a speech, which included words to this effect.

~"We would not be in the mess we are in today if you had won the presidency in 48."

From this someone in the democratic "destruction machine" has effectively said this is a racist statement.

What "Mess" was Lott referring to?

Did the rest of his speech revolve around race relations or affirmative action?

Did speeches leading up to this contain racial slurs or focus on race relations?

Lott may be the biggest racist in the world or not but I just do not see how this can be taken as a race issue. The words are innocent, unless of course you add words to it or try to explain what was in his head. As I have a hard time reading minds I usually refrain from deciding what people are thinking and stick to their words.

Someone explain how this was wrong?

It is like calling someone who likes 1940’s German cars a NAZI sympathizer and anti-Semite.

does praising the military skill of a German officer makes you pro nazi?

Does saying hitler was a hell of a public speaker make you an anti-Semite?

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Old 12-16-2002, 05:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The senator he was referring to was a segregationist at the time.
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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At the time?

When was that?

And what "Mess we are in today" was he referring to.
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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People are inferring that by saying that the country would be better off if Thurmon had won to mean that he was focusing on his segregationist ideals, when he says he was not (Trent Lott is not THAT stupid).

The media found a foothold an they are digging in. There are conservatives crying foul too and this could be for a myriad of reasons, but none of them REALLY thought Lott was saying anything racist. His only crime is stupidity by saying something vague that the press could twist easily.

As for others, there are a ton of racist statements that have been made by the left that go completely unpunished because they control the media. Some of these are minor faux-pas, while others are more egregious than anything Trent Lott could ever say. But again, these are allowed to slide. This is all backed by a political agenda and nothing more. This is as Anne Coulter says "a one-way street". The Dems can say all they want, but every phrase a Rep utters is under the microscope.
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The senator he was referring to was a segregationist at the time.
This is a baseless assumption. He made no reference to this. The people who made this leap of logic was the media. Even the Dems did not convict him until they smelled the blood in the water in the media. I invite you to read the statement again. He makes NO reference to race or anything similar.


Whoa! No this was not a baseless assumption and in my hurry to get to work, I misread your post. I am very sorry Out. Your statement is 100% correct and IS fact. I hope you will forgive me for this mistake.
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How is Out's statement an assumption? It is a fact.
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If you want to make an assumption (which is what everyone, including myself, is doing), why not assume that the man was pointing out the incredulity that the senator being honored was running for the position of the President of the United States before man fellow senators and house reps were EVEN BORN! True, he should have thought of Strom's platform of the time, but there was nothing malicious or racist in Lott's mind, I do not think. Those who think differently are either media lapdogs or have reason to dislike Lott or his party.
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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How is Out's statement an assumption? It is a fact.
Tell me where Lott mentions race. It is 100% conjecture, as I have confessed even my statements are. Mine, I believe, are just more logical leaps of logic.
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Dave, My understanding of the mood of the assembly at the time.

Was that after all the jaws dropped, there was a horrified silence.

Trent Lott had presented a skeleton that most in the GOP thought was long buried.

There is little point in shooting the messenger, unless to create a diversion.

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Maybe, I should pick my battles (like other conservatives are doing.) I mean, I don't even relly like Lott as a politician. But, to say that it is FACT that he spoke of segregationalism spanks of ignorance on the topic or ignorance of what the word fact really means.
Fact: Knowledge or information based on real occurrences (Websters.com)

There is no CONCRETE evidence that he meant segregationalism. It IS all conjecture. What he said was DUMB, but there was nothing that he said alongside that statement that would lead us to believe it was racist except for Strom's checkered past. To say it is fact, no matter what you believe, is completely and utterly wrong. And I will say it again, if anyone thinks it is fact, they are a media lapdog or have reason to dislike Lott for other reasons. If you think he may have meant that, then that is of course fine, but there is nothing factual in any statement here except for the fact that Democrats have made many racially motivated blunders that were not met with the same criticism.

And let me repeat, I don't even like Lott. I am just sick of the media brainwashing and the putting of words in Lott;s mouth.
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